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Paul, Thanks for the feedback. Maybe you can help me lick this one. The issue I'm getting is when I join multiple large tables. The error I get isn't a timeout. I can't remember the exact verbiage, but it implied that it forecasted how long the query would take, and the forecast exceeded some threshold. The message was returned immediately after submitting the request. I get the same message in green screen SQL command line on the 400 sometimes. It happens when I do a monster query against the GHH==>GLH==>GCR==>GSV. Pass throughs in this situation get the same response. Oracle and Informix seem to be able to recognize that most of the records are being filtered out of the primary and apply the filter to the parent table before joining to the children. The 400 seems to do all the joins first then filter on the conditions last. Am I writing the queries wrong? While we're on the subject of pass-through queries, do you know of a way to pass a where condition into the pass-through query like you do with a regular one by putting your prompt text into square brackets on the criteria line? I know you can do it in VBA, but I'm wondering if there's something I'm missing in the query builder. Also on your point about MS Abcess being robust and user friendly--I agree, but am scared to show users too much because of the damage they can do with update queries. I'm afraid of what the sysadmin would say if he saw the big hole we blow in security too. Any ideas on how to secure the ODBC service to limited users? Geo. (801) 360-6360 +--- | This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com +---
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