RE: CST600 question; what controls rollup of buckets?

["Martin, Jerri" <JMartin@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks for the feedback.  Our seventh bucket is waste and we have written a
program to create the amount for this bucket along with rolling it up into
bucket zero.  When we ran CST600 it re-added buckets one through six and
left out seven.  So the important part will be not to rerun CST600 a second
time, but it makes us a little nervous to think that accidents can happen.
The curious thing, which the accounting dept just told me, is that CST300
shows the summary correctly, because it adds up the buckets rather than
reading bucket zero.  

At this point, we are unwilling to put BMRs on because they require changes
to many, many, many programs.  But, planning to go to 6.1 soon, so we will
make sure we test this. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chick Doe [SMTP:Cdoe@barton-instruments.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 11:27 AM
> To:   BPCS-L@midrange.com
> Subject:      Re: CST600 question; what controls rollup of buckets?
> 
> this is too good of a question to ignore!
> 
> i am also having issues with the cst600/cst500 process. specifically we
> are having occurrences where the sum of the this level costs is not equal
> to the bucket 0 this level cost. you mention seven cost buckets. we also
> have seven cost buckets which are:
> material
> material burden
> outside processing
> setup labor
> setup burden
> run labor 
> run burden
> 
> you don't mention which cost your bucket 7 is. 
> here is the situation that we have experienced. suppose you have a
> purchased  part and you put in a material cost and possibly a material
> burden cost. they go into the this level buckets. then suppose you change
> the part to a mfg part, and add a bill and routing to it. now when you run
> cst600, the program will calculate all of the setup cost, run costs, and
> op costs from the routing and place then into the this level costs. when
> it does this it will also calculate the bucket 0 this level cost, based
> upon the costs that it just calculated form the routing. but if you have a
> this level material or material burden cost still sitting in the this
> level fields, cst600 does not include these costs when it calculates the
> total this level cost for bucket zero. 
> 
> i have given ssa substantial documentation about this and they claim that
> this is not a program problem. their explanation is that you should not
> have this level material costs when you have a routing for a part. in
> general this should be the case, but i have argued, apparently with no
> results, that it is more important that they keep the integrity of the
> cost records. if the bucket 0 total cost for a part is not the sum of the
> individual cost buckets, you will get inconsistent results when you try to
> value inventory. we have written several reports where we value inventory
> using the individual cost bucket (summarized to labor, material, and
> burden) and these reports show different values than if you use the bucket
> 0 costs for a part.
> 
> hopefully this will help. if you are experiencing the same problem please
> contact ssa and ask them to fix the problem. i believe that the bmr number
> that i tried to get them to fix this on is bmr 54681.
> 
> chick doe 
> barton instrument systems
> 
> >>> JMartin@iwgid.com 04/17/00 11:46AM >>>
> I am interested in knowing what controls the rollup of the cost buckets.
> We
> have 7 cost buckets but when we run CST600, bucket 7 this level isn't
> included in bucket 0 this level.  However, previous level bucket 7 is
> included in bucket 0 previous level.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jerri Martin
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