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Short Update Thanks for all your suggestions - we are checking stuff out & discussing recent postings. Even if these solutions work to solve current problems, they also causes other problems. Due to team effort training some new planners, it has surfaced that some people knew about apparent problems in what MRP does & does not plan on new customer requirements, that other people were not aware of, and this has gone up the ladder to suggest some policy changes to top management, but do we really understand all the ramifications? We have a recurring problem with ship date promises not being met, in which the immediate suspects are that the customer lead times were too short, or changes in other customer requirements that shared the common components resulted in consuming materials that were ordered in sufficient time, and there is some finger pointing which may be misinformed ... we find an explanation in one circumstance & it might not be valid in the others. Customer-DW gave us new business a week ago in which at time of acceptance it was known that the whole process would need to be a rush job, and various authorizations were issued for Saturday overtime, and expediting raw materials in here, but we had hoped MRP would be a partner in the venture of figuring out what all was needed. This is not an unusual scenario. We typically get prints of something a customer wants, we build samples & propose best way to make, but it has to match the customer blue print, sometimes we propose to the customer an improvement, but they have to approve any change to the engineering design, which can take time, and meanwhile they need their part real soon in quantity. Once customer technicians & our engineers are in agreement, the bill & routing is entered & checked, and customer service is notified that everything is in place. Only then is the first customer order entered on the new part. Sometimes we have a hold up because we are dealing with customer conglomerates that have large staffing --- they have not yet got around to checking our samples, even though they got them weeks ago, and the part is due in a few weeks - we ask them to approve our building to the design we sent them the samples on, even though they have not yet finished their end of the verification, so that we can get them in quantity by their deadlines, but every change has to go through a beaurocracy of multiple people to approve. Then when the part is in midst of production, we get what amounts to a design change for us, just a design correction from their perspective. Some customers do this to us a whole lot more than others. Customer-AM gave us a revision change in August in which our engineers found an error in their engineering drawing, which we fully communicated with them at the beginning of September ... you cannot use the AMP part called for in the specifications to produce those results - now if you want those results, we checked with AMP & several of AMP's competitors & none of them have anything to do something like that - do you want to authorize one of them to engineer to order something - alternatively, here is a proposal how to make this so that electrically it has the same results as what you are calling for in the drawing, except that you need to authorize the change. Well Customer-AM must have a sample they built that works, which they cannot share with us & it takes them a while to accept the notion that there is an error in their drawing, and resolve the question (we are still waiting for a corrected customer design, which according to our contract we would need to produce samples on, but we also have a request to them to approve bypass sample approval so we can start production just as soon as they provide a valid design) & meanwhile their production is setup to receive the part in volume in the middle of October & it aint going to happen, and some of their personnel will be blaming the supplier (us), so I came up with an idea how to put into MRP the portion of the part in which there is no design problem yet to solve, which would also require customer approval, because we would want them to pay for our work if they subsequently decide to abandon their design, a scenario which has been known to happen, when this kind of problem has occurred in the past. Customer Part CUST-DW was entered to BOM & routings the beginning of this week & engineering swears up & down that they back dated all the effectivities. Order CUST-DW was entered in the middle of this week - MRP planned levels 1 & 2 A-Ok but started dropping some of the sub-components & raw material needs planning at levels 3 & 4 because those requirements would have been needed at dates earlier than the "M" planning date. We run MRP500 & MRP600 by facility every nite using the default "M" time frame date & any nites that there are other updates like CST900, we do them before MRP. We normally change "M" time frame in MRP120 every Friday to the following Monday, so that this last Friday we would have changed it from Oct 11 to Oct 18, except we changed it to Sep 15 (back 1 month) to see if that solves the problem. I had been passing the buck to co-workers checking on this, so I do not know what part #s to check ... had something not been planned Fri nite & had I known what to check, I could have pushed MRP planning date back even further & done another regen ... in fact that is now my proposal for them to do Mon morning if this has not solved the problem. A lot of BPCS programs give users the option of using "M" time frame or some other time frame at time of execution, and a lot use "M" without offering any alternatives. We have some report programs we added to the collection, in which I copied the sections of BPCS code how to get at time frame, using "M" because we have had this policy of planning based on current week for eons, but now a whole bunch of programs will have the inconvenience of using Sep-13 instead of Oct-18 as the current week. We cannot use the system date in these reports because they are looking at the work to be done in week buckets, based on the current work week, not calendar 7 days from middle of week onwards. So I copied one of those programs to a test library, changed the code to access new "C" time frame CURRENT CENTRAL SCHEDULE based on what "M" would have contained normally, compiled & tested - well 2 problems - 1 it acted like the program had not changed - 2 it took an hour to execute when normally it takes 5 minutes. There is only 1 line of code change here - which time frame code to use, but I spent several hours trying to figure out this mystery. Assuming pushing MRP Planning date into the past solves our problem with these rush customer orders like DW, my new tentative plan until I figure out where software is defaulting to "M" when I want it to use "C" or something else ... each evening, make sure "M" is Sep-13, run all the MRP500 600 then make "M" Oct 18 for the convenience of users during the next work day. Al Macintyre RPG/400 Programmer Analyst BPCS 405 CD REL-1 & working on the Y2K bug fixes +--- | This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com +---
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