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SSA have various divisions & branches - check out these web sites for example. http://www.bpcsusers.com = SSA Canada http://www.ssax.com/ = SSA Chicago Part of the education needed is how to deal with SSA when getting at the services we think we are paying for. They offer lots of individual services at a price, but it can be like dealing with many different companies that just happen to share the same name (SSA). Jim wrote > So what you are saying is, the product is available, but without support. What Bill was implying - when we pay SSA for Help Line, they can be very helpful with bug repair & clarification regarding problems with the system provided we are able to be patient in getting at the answers we need, but the Help Line refuses to help with BPCS code that has been modified, or if the problems are due to converted data, even from another version of BPCS or using SSA's own buggy conversion tools, nor will they provide guidance related to researching modifications, such as the significance of various fields, and thorough education in the application is totally outside their scope. But SSA Help Line is not the only SSA service we can buy - other types of services are available, at a price, from other departments & divisions of the SSA conglomerate. OSG is free (SSA on-line data base of Tech-Support) but navigation takes getting used to, and one has to have a high-powered current technology PC Browser & an operator (human) versed in the technical jargon. Some applications need more education than others, and different people within the corporate structure need more of it, without neccessarily being aware that they need it, by application. EDI is like that, in that the end user needs next to no EDI education - it primarily needs to go to upper management & MIS. Upper Management because their EDI decisions have the power to royally screw up the company, and MIS because they have to implement the decisions. SSA Education in how to manage the application has to come from some formal class & I think SSA education could stand to learn from IBM education. I have the IBM education discount card & my employer is considering renewing it for another year, but some education works on self-paced CD-Rom & listening to audio tapes while looking at illustrations. It seems to me that this model would work great for some BPCS applications. I learned EDI not from SSA but book learning - many many many articles in the trade press - and by reverse engineering the source code (an extremely time consuming ordeal). Whitman Hart has publiished great stuff on EDI. I would reccommend getting a book on the general theory, irrespective of package & VAN selection. The nature of how EDI has to interface the corporate culture of many different companies means that modifications are almost certainly unavoidable. SSA does have a Professional Services Division that will do the mods & of course charge money over & above the help line or education services, but this leads you to several additional challenges. If your BPCS is modified by SSA division-1, then that invalidates your help line support from SSA division-2 because they refuse to help with modified BPCS - but if you get your mods from some other outfit, you can get help from Help Line on the non-modified areas, and pull the wool over their eyes regarding the whole story so as to maximize the help available. Another challenge is the whimsical nature of SSA's commitment to any one product. SSA does want to reach EDI II, but they also want to make a lot of bucks through partnerships with other software suppliers. They are somewhat like TCI cable TV in this respect. If some other software supplier can offer a better deal, there is a great temptation to throw away any commitments to their captive audience, and launch a replacement EDI or Client/Server product. For this reason, my reccommendation to my management has been that if we ever go back to EDI, we seek a package that works well with BPCS, from some outfit OTHER than SSA. I currently favor either Harbinger, because of their great Mapping Flexibility, or Wright, because we used them for EDI on BPCS/36 & their tech support was outstanding, better even than IBM's. We would not have been able to navigate the TelCom hardware connections without this software outfit's diagnosis of why the connections were failing - something our VAN was unable to handle. I would suggest that you transfer your support from SSA to some outfit like Nex Gen, as part of your EDI project, because outfits like Nex Gen have INTEGRATED regular support, modifications, and support for the modifications. Also ask the competition, such as SSA-Chicago's competion that shares the SSA name, regarding my allegations of integrated support & modification assistance. Nex Gen is probably not the only place that integrates regular support with support for modified BPCS. However, without solid relevant EDI education, I still predict that you are headed for a disaster at Antigua which could cost you your job & hurt you in finding another job that pays a decent wage. Al Macintyre +--- | This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com +---
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