Re: Microsoft .NET frontending IBM i

First I'll admit I know little about Mono and how MS licenses the runtime
engine for .NET and how the engine works. But something like Mono in a
production environment scares me a bit. The reason is that MS is moving so
fast advancing the technology that I think it would be hard to keep with the
changing technology even if IBM had an "official" mono project. Would it
support ASP.NET MVC3? What about (insert newest project to make .NET better)
support? I realize not everyone jumps on this new stuff right away, but
there are those of us that do jump on because it is better or makes life
easier.

Just a thought...

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Mike Wills
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On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Richard Schoen <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

I agree with you on reversing the trend, but I don't think you will see
that happen. The horse is out of the barn :-)

Once a company goes with Java, PHP, etc... RPG is really no longer needed
and neither is OS/400 because the aforementioned run anywhere including a
Powersystem with AIX or Linux.

Can't say I like it, but that's reality.

Recently I asked the IBM folks if they could get ASP.Net to run natively on
the iSeries and they said, thanks for the input we'll think on that. No
response in 5+ months.

They actually had an IBMer port ASP.Net Mono to run on iSeries under PASE a
few years back, but they shelved the project and the guy who did the work
won't give it up for fear of being legaled into submission. I asked :-)

If ASP.Net ran on the iSeries, many MS-centric programmers could program
directly for the i. Wouldn't that be interesting and a compelling reason to
keep the i in spite of Microsoft.

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message: 5
date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 10:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
from: Nathan Andelin <nandelin@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [WEB400] Microsoft .NET frontending IBM i

I view MS.Net as a very palpable threat to IBM i. It began as folks
started looking for modernization tools, then evolved as Microsoft gathered
migration consultants and vendors under their Midrange Alliance Program,
then further strengthened partnerships under a new organization called
Enterprise Platform Modernization. They're organized and equipped, they're
on the war path, they're taking ground.

http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh092710-story02.html

I'd like to see that trend reversed. From an architecture perspective,
refer back to my analogy of the restaurant serving customers from a soda
fountain, then later inserting what amounts to little more than a staging
area in between customer tables and the soda fountain, which causes a
bottleneck, adds latency, wastes resources, costs more, destabilizes the
operation, and negatively impacts customer service.

http://archive.midrange.com/web400/201010/msg00033.html

But it doesn't do any good to complain about the problem. We need to be
able to offer a solution. We're doing our part by developing and offering
new products for schools, which are entirely IBM i based. I think there's
real opportunity to retake lost ground by offering better applications, and
ones that not only perform core functions, but ones that also bring back
auxiliary functions like document management, approval & routing, data
warehousing, business intelligence, dashboards, web portals, electronic data
exchange, GUI reporting, etc. under IBM i. We're either building now, or
planning on building that type of functionality into core applications. I
think there is good opportunity to simplify and streamline operations, and
offer better customer service.

-Nathan


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