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Adding my 2 cents worth....

When the world of GUI came about, I do not believe most people understood
what is was all about. GUI requires redevelopment. It a whole new way of
thinking. My experience with programmers and companies is they want the
5250 screens in a GUI format. Its doable but its not the way to do it and
this is the reason for the poor adoption of GUI.

Its like taking the horse to water but you cannot make the horse drink the
water.

GUI is client server. Today you need a team for the GUI part and IBM i
folk for the back end (RPG, COBOL, SQL...). There simply is too much for a
traditional IBM i developer to know and do.

The history of GUI already shows that GUI has a short life span of 3 to 4
years and then it needs to be replaced or more GUI device types added. This
requires lots of training.

The back end, if designed properly using API's, web services and stored
procedures, will not change. The server simply serves out the data. You
will, though, continue to add new API's, web services and and stored
procedures.

Darryl.




On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Nathan Andelin <nandelin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 7:14 PM, Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

What, specifically, would this GUI do? What would it look like? Would it
have its own .css file files but different tags? Would you see it as
something that competes with javascript? php. Python?


Good questions. Having myself just filled out the form at the RFE site, I
can attest to the type of detail that IBM is looking for in order to
justify their investment in new technology. They look for things that meet
the needs of many if not most customers. They look to satisfy the
requirements of IBM shareholders.

Hopefully somebody like Alex Roytman doesn't read the RFE and say:

Hey, they appropriated all our ideas and are cajoling IBM to undercut us.
So, that is what they meant by "no offence to 3rd party vendors". Gives a
new meaning to the term "business partner".

In regard to IBM shareholders, they appear to have been burned by past
investments, such as EGL. I can imagine IBM trusting someone like Bob
Cancilla, based on his vast industry experience and standing in the IBM i
community, assuring IBM that RPG shops are going to lap this stuff up.
Without it, the platform is doomed.

Sometimes, developers of in-house ERP systems simply can't keep up with the
functional and non-functional things that vendors have been putting into
their packages. There's not much that IBM can do about that.
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