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RE: Checking object create dates



fixed

You could do a DSPFD on both objects and compare all the parameter
values, but now you're talking about a lot of checking. Maybe not too
onerous if PRTFs are the only objects that are causing you problems.

Trevor Briggs
Analyst/Programmer
Lincare, Inc.
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Subject: RE: Checking object create dates

Rob,

So there may not be a solid check for this?

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Subject: RE: Checking object create dates

That's a false assumption.
Lots of objects get changed outside of the source. Especially printer
files. Hey, let's run a CHGPRTF to change... A good change management
system will flag you when something was changed outside of the change
management system.
We were running into issues where we would promote a new printer file
change, miss the CHGPRTF issues, and users got upset.
Other possible issues: CHGOBJOWN, CHGAUT, etc.


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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
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Date: 02/13/2014 04:03 PM
Subject: RE: Checking object create dates
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Maybe
Crtdupobj carries the original source date, thus both source dates are
equal.
Problem is that my utility uses dspobjd detail(*full) output(*outfile),
source dates are not in the outfile.
If I change my utility to use detail(*service), I see the source dates
in
the outfile.

So, would it be correct to say that if two objects have different create

dates, but the source dates are equal, the objects are equal.

Fix library
Creation date/time . . . . . . . . . : 08/15/11 10:41:44
Source file date/time . . . . . . . : 04/01/11 01:52:05
Std library
Creation date/time . . . . . . . . . : 08/28/11 10:49:35
Source file date/time . . . . . . . : 04/01/11 01:52:05


-----Original Message-----
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mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Briggs, Trevor
(TBriggs2)
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 3:44 PM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Checking object create dates

If you do a DSPOBJD with DETAIL(*SERVICE) it shows the Source file
date/time. Will this work for you?

Trevor Briggs
Analyst/Programmer
Lincare, Inc.
(727) 431-1246
TBriggs2@xxxxxxxxxxx

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 3:31 PM
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Subject: Checking object create dates

I'm working on a utility to find objects that exist in a
custom/emergency
fix library that would have a create date lt the create date of the
object
in the standard library, thus sign of an issue.
Utility done, working.
However, I found a scenario where we received a new object (*prtf) for
an
upgrade. Because we change some print attributes on a few of these, we
place a copy of these prtf file objects in the fix library.
The upgrade is done, replacing the objects in the standard library.
Here's the issue.

The prtf object in the fix library was created with crtdupobj, prior to
the upgrade being done.
Creation date/time . . . . . . . . . : 08/15/11 10:41:44
The prtf object in the standard library has a create date for the day of

the upgrade.
Creation date/time . . . . . . . . . : 08/28/11 10:49:35

The objects are valid, but being flagged because of the create date
issue.
I'm looking for some other field on the object, not finding any.

Many of our upgrade processes do this. The upgrade process does a
crtdupobj, thus the object loses its original info, (create date,
created
by user)

Thank You
_____
Paul Steinmetz
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