Re: Looking at Power 7 -- MIDRANGE-L

Model 600 to 720 eh, ironic that this used to be the normal upgrade path! :-) Do you think you'll have enough power on the new system?

As you already know this isn't so much an upgrade as a re-implementation and really an 'extended' risc to risc path. As with any such the sequence is important. Restore security first, then libraries and IFS and then RSTAUT to connect it all together.

Certainly if any SNA stuff is in use that will change significantly from way back in V4R3 as will comm lines if any. Do understand very clearly what you're doing with those. Some things are still supported (switched lines for example) and others are not (SNA on a LAN).

Seems likely that your biggest challenges will be in the vendor's software unless the same exact version will run on V4R3 and V7R1. If this is true it's probable that the software isn't getting updated much.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

On 1/21/2011 3:25 PM, Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc. wrote:

So Pete, other than talking to ISV's. Any tips for going from v4r3 to
7.1. From a model 600 to a model 720?

I plan to do a full reinstall of all IBM and third party software, then
save and restore custom libraries, user information and security
information. Probably run side by side for a bit and give them time to
shake out any issues that crop up since I expect that there will be a few.

Mark Murphy
STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

From: "Pete Massiello"<pmassiello-ml@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 01/21/2011 03:08 PM
Subject: RE: Looking at Power 7
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx

You have to go to at least 6.1 of the OS, with 6.1.1 of the SLIC. While
the
upgrade from 6.1 to 7.1 is extremely easy compared to 5.4 to 6.1 (the
upgrade is easy, it’s the preparation with ANZOBJCVN that makes it a
little
difficult). Let me give you a few things you should have investigated
before you decide, there are others and that is why you read the memo to
users, and upgrade/installation guide. You will need to determine if you
are running WAS 6.0, then you have to upgrade first to WAS 6.1 to get to
IBM
i 7.1, or you stay with WAS 6.0 and go with IBM i 6.1. If you are running
Domino which version are you running as some work with 6.1 and 7.1, others
just work with 5.4, or with just 6.1. Do you use JAVA, which JDK are you
using? There are different JDKs with each release of IBM i, and some JDKs
aren't supported at 7.1, but were there at 6.1 and/or 5.4.

In addition to knowing "what questions should I be asking my resellers",
have you done your homework to know the dependencies that each release
requires, and how those interact with your current environment? You just
don't go to a release because someone on this list recommends it, as they
have done their homework for their environment and made sure they checked
out the issues for their environment, but not yours. This isn't a
negative
comment on you Cole, this is a comment to everyone that says they are on
7.1
and you should be there as well. Yes, I agree that everyone *should* be
on
the latest release, but only after you have checked the requirements,
constraints, and other issues that all the releases have within them.
Homework and preparation are the key to insure that your upgrade goes
smoothly.

IBM has asked me to join them on Tuesday February 8th at
2:00pm EST
in creating a webinar which discusses moving up to Power7 and IBM i 7.1 It
will have Guy Paradise, WW Marketing Manager IBM i, Mark Olson WW Product
manager Power System (Mr. Hardware), Steve Will Chief Architect IBM i, and
myself (I have probably done more IBM i upgrades than anyone else in the
world). Here is the link for the webinar if you are interested.

http://app.tech.pentontech.com/e/es.aspx?s=1481&e=53059&elq=2cebb4ee86274d40

bac6e48d71997a68

Pete

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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cole Gantz
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:15 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Looking at Power 7

We're in the process of looking at a new Power 7. The question we have is
which
OS to go to. We're at V5R4M0, do we go to 6.1 or make the leap to 7.1?

Also what questions should we be asking our reseller?

Cole

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