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Shared.

Sharing mode is uncapped.

Typically, I will set or have processors similar to this:

LPAR1 LPAR2 LPAR3
Minimum Processing Units 1 1 1
Desired Processing Units 1 2 1
Maximum Processing Units 2 2 2

Minimum Virtual Processors 1 1 1
Desired Virtual Processors 2 2 2
Maximum Virtual Processors 3 3 3

I'm using V6 of the HMC. Typically, if I use WRKSYSACT I always see the
processors at the desired processing units value.

Michael Crump

Manager, Computing Services
Saint-Gobain Containers, Inc.
1509 S. Macedonia Ave.
Muncie, IN 47302

765.741.7696
765.741.7012 f



Motivation
If a pretty poster and a cute saying are all it takes to motivate you,
you probably have a very easy job. The kind robots will be doing soon.

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pete Massiello
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:25 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: LPAR - HMC/FSP vs. R/LPAR vs. APRM vs. ?

Mike,

Do you have Dedicated processors? You need to define them as
Shared
Processors.

Pete

Pete Massiello
iTech Solutions
http://www.itechsol.com

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Crump, Mike
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:48 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: LPAR - HMC/FSP vs. R/LPAR vs. APRM vs. ?

Nah, 4 way Power 5+ and 4 way Power 5 with all processors activated.
I've probably screwed something up somewhere.

Also, my FSP codes should be pretty current....but I will review that as
well.

Michael Crump

Manager, Computing Services
Saint-Gobain Containers, Inc.
1509 S. Macedonia Ave.
Muncie, IN 47302

765.741.7696
765.741.7012 f



Motivation
If a pretty poster and a cute saying are all it takes to motivate you,
you probably have a very easy job. The kind robots will be doing soon.

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pete Massiello
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:35 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: LPAR - HMC/FSP vs. R/LPAR vs. APRM vs. ?

Mike,

Do you have a FULL Power5 chip, or are you constrained. If you
don't have I think min of 2400 CPW, then you are constrained, and can't
do
Uncapped.

Pete

Pete Massiello
iTech Solutions
http://www.itechsol.com



-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Crump, Mike
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:07 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: LPAR - HMC/FSP vs. R/LPAR vs. APRM vs. ?

Hmmm......I'm at Power5 and not seeing things move...I'll have to do
more reading on my settings, etc......probably my virtual processor
settings...

Michael Crump

Manager, Computing Services
Saint-Gobain Containers, Inc.
1509 S. Macedonia Ave.
Muncie, IN 47302

765.741.7696
765.741.7012 f



Motivation
If a pretty poster and a cute saying are all it takes to motivate you,
you probably have a very easy job. The kind robots will be doing soon.

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pete Massiello
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:18 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: LPAR - HMC/FSP vs. R/LPAR vs. APRM vs. ?

Mike,

I have customers on V5R3 that are using uncapped partitions.
This
has more to do with the box being a Power5 (min) than anything else.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Crump, Mike
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:14 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: LPAR - HMC/FSP vs. R/LPAR vs. APRM vs. ?

Pete,

That is the path I've been leaning towards. Does that require V5r4? I
still have partitions of V5R3 (ducking). But they should be on V5R4
soon.

Michael Crump

Manager, Computing Services
Saint-Gobain Containers, Inc.
1509 S. Macedonia Ave.
Muncie, IN 47302

765.741.7696
765.741.7012 f



Motivation
If a pretty poster and a cute saying are all it takes to motivate you,
you probably have a very easy job. The kind robots will be doing soon.
-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pete Massiello
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 10:17 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: LPAR - HMC/FSP vs. R/LPAR vs. APRM vs. ?

Mike,

For moving processor resources around, I use uncapped and it
works
great. This might be too simplest for your environment, but using
uncapped
for partitions has been so easy to maximize my customer's iSeries
investment
to get the most usage out of the machines CPW. I understand that memory
movement will be forthcoming in the future.

Pete

Pete Massiello
iTech Solutions
http://www.itechsol.com

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Crump, Mike
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:23 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: LPAR - HMC/FSP vs. R/LPAR vs. APRM vs. ?

I wanted to get some feedback on what people are using for their LPAR
environments for control purposes.



When we first started doing LPAR's we used R/LPAR mostly to move IOP
resources around. With memory and processor we operated pretty much in
a capped/static environment. Due to price increases with their products
I had to choose Help Systems products to surrender in order to keep my
Help Systems maintenance fees from skyrocketing. I chose R/LPAR because
it was one of the more costly products, we were using the least, and one
that we could actually function without.



I'm now moving into the world where I need to move processor and memory
and not be so static. I should have some environments where I have
higher demand at different times - evening vs. day.



Honestly, I don't think I can afford R/LPAR and there upgrade costs
can't be ignored. I thought I would check with people and see what they
were using and their opinions. I also wanted to get input on 3rd party
pricing practices. I can't afford to buy a product and pay increased
license fees and maintenance fees every time I upgrade. If the price
changes aren't very large I can probably get it approved but when those
costs go up 25% - 50% and the only thing I'm doing different is running
on a larger processor - I can't get it approved.



Now, I'm mo



Michael Crump



Manager, Computing Services

Saint-Gobain Containers, Inc.

1509 S. Macedonia Ave.

Muncie, IN 47302



765.741.7696

765.741.7012 f





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