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Re: Calling a sub-procedure from a service program with a CL program


Thanks for your reply Jeff, and everyone else that also answered
It has finally sunk in that I need to use the CRTCLMOD (option 15 on pdm)
command, the use the CRTPGM command to create your program.
That is not my problem.
The problem is that MKS (Implementer) is set to use the command CRTBNDCL,
and our MKS (Implementer) is set up so that these parameters CANNOT be
changed by us lowly programmers.
So RTFM will do me no good
We HAVE to go through red tape to have these parameters changed
And as I have previously written, I know that I am going to be asked why
cant I just call a new RPGLE program that uses this subprocedure to return
the value that I want into the CLLE program

I have just re-read my above answer, and depending on how you interpret my
written word, some of what I wrote could be taken facetiously.
Believe me, that is NOT my intent.
This whole thread just took a long time for the correct answers to sink
into my thick skull
However, I am going to press for a change to MKS



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Alan,
As others have pointed out, you would not use the CRTBNDCL (opt 14 on pdm)
cmd, but the CRTCLMOD (option 15 on pdm) command.
After you had created the CL Module, you would use the CRTPGM command to
create your program.
MKS would have no problem with this setup.

Hope this helps,


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----- Original Message ----
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Subject: Re: Calling a sub-procedure from a service program with a CL
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Hi Jeff
Thanks for your reply
I was already contemplating changing the type
In my rush to try and get this change through I obviously have not
explained things very well at all
I CAN change the type to CLLE, but that type uses the command CRTBNDCL
As you and many others have said, use CRTCLMOD command, then use the
CRTPGM command with the BNDDIR parm to create the program.
However, we use MKS implementer that is set up to use the CRTBNDCL command
Others have therefore suggested changing the parameters for MKS. Which
makes sense.
However, to change the parameters here,for MKS involves quite a lot of red
tape, and I know that I'm going to be asked why I don't just create an
RPGLE program that uses the sub procedure, that the CL program can call



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midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 11/04/2008 01:36:37 PM:

Alan,
Is there any reason that you can not change the source type from CLP
to CLLE and compile it using the CRTCLMOD command, then use the
CRTPGM command with the BNDDIR parm to create the program?
This will allow you to use the CALLPROC command to access the
service program procedure.

Thanks,

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----- Original Message ----
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Subject: Re: Calling a sub-procedure from a service program with a CL
program


Thanks for your reply Charles
I had already thought of that.
What I may end up doing is probably creating an RPGLE program using this
sub procedure and have the cl program call that instead.
NOT the way I want to go, but changing the MKS parameters here, involves
a
lot of read tape, AND I KNOW that I will be asked "why not use an RPG
program to call etc. etc.



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midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 11/04/2008 12:53:51 PM:

If David doesn't jump into this within the next two minutes or so...

Call MKS.

I'd be willing to bet you're doing something wrong.

We use Aldon, and when you specify object type *PGM attribute RPGLE or
CLLE, there's also an extended attribute of type BND or ILE.  If you
use BND, then the CRTBNDxxx commands are used.  If you specify an
attribute of ILE, the CRTPGM command is used.  (Note that
techinically, the attribute of RPGLE/CLLE doesn't apply to a true ILE
program, Aldon lets you put it there, but it has no effect)



Charles

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Alan Shore <AlanShore@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

I have found that missing parameter is causing me a headache
We use MKS implementer and for a CL (or CLLE) program, it
automatically
uses the CRTCLPGM command
Cannot apply the BNDDIR
For the moment, I am stumped



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I always thought there should be a BNDDIR parm on the CRTBNDCL
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Subject: Re: Calling a sub-procedure from a service program
with a CL program

There is also a BNDDIR parameter on CRTPGM - since you
already use a binding directory in RPGLE, use that parameter

If you are building it with modules, then the MODULE
parameter just takes care of it. As Adam suggests.

Adam Glauser wrote:
Alan Shore wrote:

Thanks for your reply Adam
How does the program know what needs to be bound?
In RPGLE the binding directory is specified in the H spec


So far I've been using the BNDSRVPGM and MODULE parameters on the
CRTPGM command.  However, it is probably better to use Alan
Campin's
COMPILE tool or the facilities of your change management
tool if you have one.

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