What about VPN and a 5250 Client App? I don't consider this a Web App.

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 12:26 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: 5250 for iPhone


I think this is confusing because the original question was about 5250 for
the iPhone, and it morphed into a CLI vs iNav argument. My attempt to bring
it back to the original question flopped.

As for iPhone, it ~must~ have the web in order to work with your i. You
cannot plug it into a cable direct to your i - or direct to your network. It
connects using wireless technology to the web, then to your network, then to
your i. Without the web, the iPhone cannot see your i... Hence, 5250 for
iPhone is a web app! :-)


On 7/25/08 11:23 AM, "David Gibbs" <david@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Trevor Perry wrote:
It seems that the majority of servers have an HTTP interface to
manage their systems today. In fact, you can stick an ethernet cable
from your pc to the HMC port on a System i server and get a browser

I don't argue that you can use a web interface to ADMINISTER a system
... but when it comes down to it, using a command line is far more
efficient for problem determination.

If you want, the iPhone 5250 application can only be accessed over
the web, so is it a web app?

Huh? Where did you get that idea? It's not accessed over the web.
It's a native application running on the iPhone that connects to port
23 on the remote host. It's no more a web app than CA400 is.

Ultimately, a web systems management tool is great, because I can
access it from outside the building. Using the "I must have a
console" can only be used as an argument inside the server room.
Using it to justify iPhone 5250 does not work quite as well.

I don't have a clue what you are talking about.

And when can you NOT have a command line interface in a browser and
over the web? I think there are two different arguments getting
wrapped up in each other.

Again, I really don't understand what you are saying. 5250 access has
nothing to do with web access. Being able to issue a command through
the browser is not the same thing as having 5250 session.


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