Re: Experiences with VISTA

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I have tried gftp, and couldn't get it to remember my login credentials
for different sites. I maintain around 30 different web sites, and that
was a show stopper for me. VirgoFTP can, although it does have its
little quirks too. I have had no problem running X in the 3 years or so
since I dumped Red Hat in favor of Slackware, although configuration is
still not painless. It just doesn't, imho render text as cleanly as
windows. It also doesn't seem to produce 3D highlight and shadow as
well. It works, but it simply isn't as pleasing to look at. That's not a
show stopper, but it's certainly a factor. Then there's the problem of
whether to run Gnome, which looks great, but is incredibly difficult to
compile, or KDE, which is a little more kludgey, and enormously
inefficient, or possibly another windows manager, like XFCE, which is
small and easy, but doesn't come with a lot of bells and whistles.
That's what I use so I still use pieces of KDE to fill some of the app
gaps. I'd really like to see Linux succeed, but as of today, there are
issues in the workstation department.

I don't mean to imply that Linux is bad and Windows is good. I'm
frustrated with Windows too. Installing software on W2K is always a crap
shoot that may corrupt the system beyond repair. As you say, it does
crash more often than seems reasonable, usually because of some 3rd
party software, which really shouldn't be able to crash the system, but
often does.

Pete Hall
pbhall@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://pbhall.us


jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Have you tried gftp?  If so, in what why is it inferior to WS_FTP?

I'm not sure what your issues are with X, but I am wondering if there is a
configuration issue.  Years ago on Red Hat 6 (for example), X configation was
not pleasant.  Newer versions appear to do a much better job of guessing the
details of the monitor resolution as well as the video card 
capabilities.  But,
there is always the potential to have hardware that is not fully 
supported yet. There are any number of reasons for that, but support is 
improving all the time.


At work, I use Windows.  Really irritating to receive a snotty message stating
that some application has done something wrong and will be terminated. 
Particularly so when the application is IE running on a properly patched
system.  I have also had this dreaded box rear up on me while creating rather
complex reports using Crystal Report Writer.  Glitches I have seen in Linux
have been far less frustrating.

John McKee

Quoting Pete Hall <pbhall@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

<snip>
The X

graphical display is inferior to Windows. If there's a graphical FTP
client available as good as WS_FTP I haven't found it, and I've looked.
The best I've been able to do is VirgoFTP. Compare PhotoShop with GIMP.
One's free, the other not, but still... Even web browsers, don't render
as well on Linux as on Windows (same browsers, same versions, but on
Linux they must use X). Acrobat reader has the same issue.

Pete Hall
pbhall@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://pbhall.us


Lukas Beeler wrote:

If your windows machines crashes three times during a day, then the
problem is most likely NOT windows.

a) Faulty Hardware (most likely your RAM, memtest86)
b) Virus/Spyware (check your security strategy)

Security Fixes once per month isn't that bad. And Microsoft Word is a
tool you will need to learn how to use it. You can't use it the same way
as an 8 year old Lotus Office Suite, or like OfficeVision/400. You will
need to learn on how to use such a tool to your advantage.

Save for some special circumstances, there's no real alternative to
Windows as a Desktop, and even Server OS for managing your Desktops. I
suggest you to learn to work with this platform, and learn to workaround
all those quirks.

Every platform has it's fair share of problems. i5/OS can't change the
link speed of an ethernet card while the interface is up, it can't do
full saves while the system is operating, and so on.

Just learn to deal with it.


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Allen
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 8:52 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Experiences with VISTA

Windows XP and Office 2003 are the last MS products that will be put on
any
computer of mine, I tracked my time yesterday at work (slow day) and I
lost
approx 1 hr total of "productive" time due to:

1.  The lovely I am MS Word I will reformat you document as you type
cause I
know all including what you want to do.

2.  Window focus changes as your typing

3.  3 reboots/lockups

4.  Install updates (AGAIN!!!!!)

Sorry MS is total BS, why does anyone even consider it a multi tasking
OS,
its still a single user OS with a windows front end, so it "looks" like
its
doing more than 1 thing

On 2/16/07, Paul Nelson <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I rest my case.  :-))

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 708-425-4198
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Franz
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 8:18 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Experiences with VISTA

The December svc pack for latest iSeries Access has the Vista support.
IBM has an apar on it in the iSeries Access home page.
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/iseries/access/
btw - i went to the MS Roadshow - 4 hours - we averaged 1 crash/reboot

per

hour for what they were trying to demo. But did get a cd good for free
download of Office 2007.
jim franz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Nelson" <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"

<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: Experiences with VISTA

Have you got a 5.4 box? You can reach inside and upgrade your PC

from

there:

/QIBM/ProdData/CA400/Express/Install/Image/setup.exe

You will have a version with the service packs applied up to where

your

System i machine is at in terms of PTF's. Good luck. I'm going to

wait a

year for a Vista machine

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 708-425-4198
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of derhamj
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 6:35 PM
To: MidRange-L
Subject: Experiences with VISTA

Got a new laptop yesterday with Vista and Office 2007. Has loaded

all my

business applications and WDSC just fine but it did not like iSeries
Access
V5R2. Is there a new download available or does anyone know of any

other

solutions to this problem.  Just feel I absolutely need iSeries

Access.

Jack Derham

Direct Systems, Inc

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