Actually, I think when you order the cume via FTP it also comes with the hiper and database group. Ordering that way also gets rid of the chicken and egg argument.
From the file ilstCUME.txt in my download:
Version Release PTF# Reason PTF Listed Status Product Mod Lvl -------- ----------------- --------------- ------- -------- MH00651 CO-REQ OF MH00681 Sup'd by MH00677 MH00666 CO-REQ OF MH00683 Sup'd by MH00677 MH00637 CO-REQ OF MH00674 Sup'd by MH00677 MF37730 ORDERED Sup'd by MF39573 ... SF99504 ORDERED <<< Shipped >>> SEL Lst V5R4M0 SF99539 ORDERED <<< Shipped >>> SEL Lst V5R4M0 ... Then I just load this image catalog all at once. I order all groups and put them into a different image catalog. I used to pick and choose applicable groups but now I just order them all for my version of OS. With multiple lpar's running different products and God knows how many times we add a product after we put on the cume and groups and now have to reinstall them. Having the latest already downloaded makes it really easy to reapply. Rob Berendt