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Don't forget the time that I accidentally clicked on the reel tape and
ordered a cume on reel - holy CRAP.  It was 6 or 7 tapes.  Whoops.

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Justin C. Haase - iSeries System Administrator
IBM Certified Systems Expert - eServer i5
Kingland Systems Corporation
email - justin.haase@xxxxxxxxxxxx

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Yeah, and it's not like the old days when we could get lots of nice free
tapes by ordering lots of ptf media from IBM.  (Joking!  I thought of
that but I never ordered media just to get more tapes.)

Rob Berendt
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> 1 - Because when I order ptf's on media IBM tapes the media 
> to the back of a turtle in Boulder, points it east and hopes 
> it get's to Kendallville. 
> IBM's gotten really lousy with fast shipping of ptf's on 
> media.  Perhaps it is planned harassment to encourage 
> downloading to reduce shipping costs.
> 
> 2 - People mishandle the ptf media.  Like, they don't wait 
> for the light to stop flashing when they go to the next CD 
> and the ptf install fails. 
> And either they call me at o'darkThirty, or worse, they just 
> skip putting on the ptf's.  (Granted, as you said, I could 
> preload these, {and I do} except for ptf's as part of an OS upgrade.)
> 
> 3 - After waiting for IBM's lousy shipping, to have to wait 
> again because of a bad CD stinks.

C'mon Rob, tell us what you really think. <g>

I thought I was the only one experiencing the slow shipping of PTFs on
CD.
Used to always arrive next day.  Then went to 2 days.  Now by the time
it
gets here I've forgotten what I ordered.

To echo others, the biggest 'good' for me with image catalogs is knowing
there's no media problems before firing the GO PTF, option 8.


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