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 I think the productivity problem noted in the thread , I summarize as "what
to do next to get good GUI in a reasonable way" has been addressed by two
efforts in "business thinking":
Offshoring and 4GL tools/program generators "not like your father's GUI"
In other words, the first solution being a copout to I/T and the quickfix,
and the second, a realization that the only way to be more productive is to
stop re-inventing the wheel at every fork in the road.
 My favorite picture comparing programming worlds is here:
http://www.lansa.com/promos/petshop.htm
 I am not sure I ever want to understand all the messages that Tomcat can
spew from code I did not write or life as a .NET disciple were my world is
controlled by MS. But both JAVA and .NET do a very good job a solving some
of these problems we all have faced.
 Just an opinion,
Mark

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