Re: Cheaper Servers? - Been there - done that

Even a Windows NT server has its own keyboard, mouse and display. All
administration can be done on the server, it does not need any clients.

Many OS/400 features can only be accessed via Ops Nav, and another
machine running Windoze is essential. We cannot administrate the server
on the server. More and more IBM are taking this route.

Syd Nicholson


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>2)  Why do people feel that, (other than this theoretical tiny model) that
>a server needs a graphical interface?  All access is from the clients
>regardless if the client is Windows, OS/2, Unix, Linux, browser, or even a
>dumb 5250 terminal.  The 400, (or even the S/36) has never had an
>integrated client - 5250 or otherwise.  I think the S/38 was the last
>machine to do so.
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>Rob Berendt
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>To create a real portable iSeries IBM need to create a GUI AS/400.
>Unless that happens we will always need another PC system to connect to
>it.
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>A native OS/400 GUI and native iSeries display, keyboard and mouse. A
>prime requirement for a laptop iSeries.
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>The only 'native' display access an iSeries has is green screen text
>based. This must seriously hinder sales in an all GUI world.
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>Perhaps an X-Server type approach and a third party product such as KDE
>or Gnome would be the way forward.
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>Politically I don't think IBM have any interest in this. They work on
>the basis that everyone uses Windoze so they only provide GUI software
>(eg. CA/400, Ops Nav, Code/400) to run under Windoze. In so doing they
>FORCE all their customers to use Windoze. Please correct me if I am
>wrong, but I am not aware of any IBM created CA/400 software for other
>operating systems (eg. Linux). They insist we use Ops Nav, and Ops Nav
>only runs under Windoze.
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>Personally I concluded that even maintaining a small Windoze network was
>too expensive on my time. I now use Linux (much better, and more stable)
>and question IBM's commitment to Linux. They seem to want it on their
>servers (the words bandwagon and jump spring to mind) but I don't know
>of any serious client side Linux developments. I would love to see a
>CA/400 for Linux.
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>Syd Nicholson
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