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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Now that would be something - C'mon IBM - get your finger out Syd Nicholson Dare @ Work wrote: >I think a portable OS400 can give Windoze a ride for its money. Not to >mention the stability of OS400 amongst many of its superior features. Don't >quote me but we could break the monopoly of Microsoft on OS. > >Dare > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dr Syd Nicholson" <sydnic@ccs400.com> >To: <midrange-l@midrange.com> >Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:10 AM >Subject: Re: Cheaper Servers? > > >>-- >>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>Put me on the purchase list too. >> >>A valuable asset to any sales team. Mobile software demonstrations at >>any customer workplace. Opportunities to show OS/400 capababilities on >>any potial customer site. Oportunites to get iSeries systems into the >>smallest of potential customers, most of which perceive Big Blue as >>being too remote, complicated, and expensive. >> >>A valuable asset to any contractor doing development for different >>clients. Mobile software development on a real iSeries!! I look forward >>to it. >> >>Syd Nicholson >>Castlehill Computer Services Ltd. >> >> >>Shields, Ken wrote: >> >>>Put me on the purchase list... >>>Ken >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Robin Sapiro (Rogers) [mailto:robin.sapiro@rogers.com] >>>Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:31 PM >>>To: midrange-l@midrange.com >>>Subject: Re: Cheaper Servers? >>> >>> >>>David, >>> >>>How about this as a survey subject. >>> >>>Would you buy a laptop iSeries. >>>In what price range. >>>What would you do with it >>> >>>Maybe IBM would like some overwhelming feedback on this subject (OK so I >>> >am > >>>dreaming - but still an interesting survey question) >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Jeff Bull" <Jeff.Bull@ITM-group.co.uk> >>>To: <midrange-l@midrange.com> >>>Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:47 AM >>>Subject: RE: Cheaper Servers? >>> >>> >>>>... I never mentioned Intel processors, I used the term 'laptop', >>>> >perhaps > >>>I >>> >>>>could have used the term 'portable'. >>>> >>>>At a previous employer the sales/marketing team 'lugged' a model 150 >>>> >>>around >>> >>>>the world (!!!) to demonstrate the business applications they had for >>>> >>>sale. >>> >>>>The prospects liked to see applications running native, not over a comms >>>>link. The poor little 150 was bashed to bits many times by the airline >>>>baggage handlers, even though it was reasonably protected in a custom >>>> >made > >>>>case. >>>> >>>>A portable AS/400 is what is needed. The electronic guts of a 150/170 >>>> >>>style >>> >>>>system could surely be repackaged, perhaps further miniaturised, and >>>> >made > >>>>truly portable, e.g. carried as airline hand-baggage. I bet the >>>> >component > >>>>technology already exists, the casing and marketing ... well IBM ? >>>> >>>>Jeff Bull >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Adam Lang [mailto:aalang@rutgersinsurance.com] >>>>Sent: 09 April 2002 16:25 >>>>To: midrange-l@midrange.com >>>>Subject: Re: Cheaper Servers? >>>> >>>> >>>>Nope. Doubt it would work. Part of AS/400 (and Mac for that point too) >>>>robustness is the fact of a limited set of hardware to support. >>>> >>>>If you have IBM developing OS/400 for Intel AND the millions of hardware >>>>possible, it will tank. >>>> >>>>Adam Lang >>>>Systems Engineer >>>>Rutgers Casualty Insurance Company >>>>http://www.rutgersinsurance.com >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Andy Nolen-Parkhouse" <aparkhouse@attbi.com> >>>>To: <midrange-l@midrange.com> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:20 AM >>>>Subject: RE: Cheaper Servers? >>>> >>>> >>>>>Buck, >>>>> >>>>>I would differentiate between an entry level server and a personal >>>>>version of OS/400. One of the reasons that IBM gives for not pushing >>>>>iSeries solutions in their consulting business is that they have >>>>>difficulty recruiting recent college graduates with OS/400 experience. >>>>>One of the reasons many managers would not consider an iSeries is that >>>>>they've never used one. If a very-low-cost personal version of the >>>>>system was available for an Intel platform, perhaps with a client limit >>>>>of one, then college students could use the system and gain the >>>>>familiarity that none of them have. >>>>> >>>>>I can think of no other way to make OS/400 ubiquitous, given the >>>>>circumstances of the marketplace. >>>>> >>>>>Andy Nolen-Parkhouse >>>>> >>>>>>John Carr wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>If we share the same hardware, and IBM OWNS OS/400 and AIX >>>>>>>and they are putting relatively the same R&D money into both, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Should the iSeries cost the same as a pSeries ( +/- a few $) ?? >>>>>>> >>>>>>I briefly spoke with Dr Soltis at the recent Northeast IBM Conference. >>>>>> >>>>>I >>>>> >>>>>>asked him to put OS/400 on a laptop to distribute to universities. He >>>>>>told >>>>>>me that he floated the idea and nobody was interested, including >>>>>> >>>>>COMMON. >>>>> >>>>>>Apparently, if IBM can't find demand, they're disinclined to fire up a >>>>>>production line to create dumpster-filler. >>>>>> >>>>>>This may be an opportunity for us to tell Rochester that we're >>>>>> >>>>>interested >>>>> >>>>>>in >>>>>>a low-cost OS/400. >>>>>> --buck >>>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing >>>>> >>>>list >>>> >>>>>To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com >>>>>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, >>>>>visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l >>>>>or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com >>>>>Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives >>>>>at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing >>>> >>>list >>> >>>>To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com >>>>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, >>>>visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l >>>>or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com >>>>Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives >>>>at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. >>>> >>>> >>>>________________________________________________________________________ >>>>This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. 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