RE: Cheaper Servers? -- MIDRANGE-L


well, Ken, let's take this a bit further...

Kids in school HAVE and HAVE HAD Windows and Unix on thier desktops for
YEARS....  So, guess what they want to work with when they leave
school????  Guess what they want to develop with?  Guess what TOOL SETS
they have to work with...!?

....HINT:  it's NOT OS/400.....

IBM deserves a BIG DUH! for not listening to users and educators and
dropping the ball big time in the educational arena...

OH, btw, what's the highest 2 systems that people goto when leaving the
400 or comparing their 400 to???  Uh, unix and windows(SQL Server).  DUH!
Why?  Because, that's the skill sets they got in school!  DUH!

Reality, what a concept.....

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On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Shields, Ken wrote:

> 10 to 15 years ago, pc's didn't make sense to most people..
> take a look at some of the other replies on this thread, re college grads, 
>sales etc....
> It is because pc's are readily available at home and at university, that they 
>have moved in a big way into the business world.
> If you have to dial in somewhere else, to show a client an Iseries, 
>etc...probably , and for the same reasons mentioned befiore,
> the question in that person's mind will be :
> "If this solution is so great, why isn't it on the lap top, or pc?"
> The point I'm trying to make here is, if you're in the business of computing, 
>you'd better keep up with the crowd.
> Selling the Defence Department, the most powerful computer in the world, will 
>only give IBM a breather, and a temporary
> respite from the difficult work in developing a pc based operating system.
> We all know what eventually happens to Leviathans...
> Ken
> I for one, and i'm sure there's a great many other people on this mail 
>service would just love having V5R1 on their
> desktops.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Lang [mailto:aalang@rutgersinsurance.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:14 AM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: Cheaper Servers?
>
>
> Why would you want OS/400 on a laptop?
>
> Isn't iSeries geared towards a backend solution?    What would you
> demonstrate to the cusotmer?
>
> Plus, what could you show them on a laptop running it native that you just
> couldn't show from a laptop you bring in with a modem and just connect to an
> AS/400 located somewhere else?  Or on the customer's PC over the internet?
>
> The idea of puting a server OS on a laptop to take to a customer to show off
> its amazing "thin client" abilitites seems rather counter-productive.
>
> The post doesn't make much sense to me.
>
> Adam Lang
> Systems Engineer
> Rutgers Casualty Insurance Company
> http://www.rutgersinsurance.com
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Bull [mailto:Jeff.Bull@ITM-group.co.uk]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 10:40 AM
> > To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
> > Subject: RE: Cheaper Servers?
> >
> >
> > ... imagine an average laptop computer ... how many times more powerful
> and
> > capacious than many of the AS/400 models of old.
> > ... now imagine all those AS/400 / iSeries product salesmen in IBM, BPs,
> > trying to compete with the Unix and MS based salesmen; ok, which group can
> > actually demonstrate their products, and with more ease ... and in the
> > prospects own office?
> >
> > OS/400 on a laptop would be an incredible marketing tool, every iSeries
> > salesperson would want one, need one.  It would put them on a level
> playing
> > field with those other application vendors.  Even if IBM didn't directly
> > make a profit from a laptop
> > iSeries, the increase in sales of larger systems would surely and
> adequately
> > compensate.
> >
> > How many iSeries based home workers are there out in the world?  IBM, give
> > us a CHEAP and practical laptop / single-user desktop version of OS/400 -
> if
> > there is no demand, create one.  Televisions, microwave ovens, mobile
> > phones, home computers - all inventions that most people don't really
> need,
> > but they nearly all have them.
> >
> > This is another example of IBM falling out of touch with the needs and
> > desires of their customers.
> >
> > Jeff Bull
>
>
>
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