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Yes, using BOTH date (MMDDCCYY format) and time (HHMMSSetc) would definitely give something of a uniqueness abut the result. A whole library of books have been written about random number generators but as Leif previously wrote, the results obtained with this method was satisfactory for the answer to this particular problem. >>> <booth@MartinVT.com> 08/08/01 09:08AM >>> What happens though if you also retrieve today's Lillian date and do something with that and with time? there would be uniqueness then wouldn't there? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Booth Martin, 802-454-8315 x235 Goddard College Information Services http://www.Goddard.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------- "alan shore" <SHOREA@dime.com> Sent by: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com 08/08/01 08:37 AM Please respond to MIDRANGE-L To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> cc: Subject: Re: Random Number Generator Point taken, but a random number generator should NOT give the same result given the same initial data. You wouldn't believe what an incredible amount of money has been spent in attempting to create such a piece of software. This type of logic was first thought of by the British government decades ago, but was scrapped when they realized how limited it was. >>> "Leif Svalgaard" <leif@leif.org> 08/07/01 05:06PM >>> From: alan shore <SHOREA@dime.com> > Surely, this cannot be a random number generator, as the same number will be generated at the same time of day. as there are only 10000 possible 4-digit PINs, so what? If you assign 30000 PINs a day you cycle through every number three times already. If you don't do that many PINs, but say only 100, then the chance that you will the same number is small. +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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