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Aye. Back when I first started getting into computers, 1974 or so, I knew quite a bit about what was out there by about 1979, 1980. I knew about the technology, the programming languages, printers, communications, etc... Although I didn't know everything about computers, I knew, or had heard about, about 75% of what was out there. Nothing much was a surprise. Now, what I know is a just a drop in the bucket, and I know a lot more now too. I'm lucky if I know 5% about what is out there. There is just so much more to learn. In addition to the languages I had initially learned (Fortran, Cobol, ASM, APL, Pascal, Basic, etc...) new languages have been coming out at an astonishing pace, some to die off (Symphony, Lotus 123, dBase, etc...) and some stick around for a while (OOPS, Java, RPG, and who knows how many I don't even know about?). We have come from a few operating systems (CPM, IBM JCL, Wang Basic, Unix, etc...) to too many (PC Dos, Windows, OS/2, OS400, etc...). And hardware. We didn't have PCIMIA, PCI, AGP, USB, CGA, EGA, VGA, SVGA, Fiber Optic, 100/1000 BaseT, Cat3, Cat5, Cat5e, Cat6, ad nausium. And the public internet POP3, SMTP, Telnet, IRC, FTP, WhoIS, etc.. I don't think that the students are learning any less then we did, they are just learning a much lesser percentage of the total. They are probably learning a whole heck of a lot more. At some point we may hit the point of diminishing returns. When there is just too many varied things out there for people to support. Then perhaps we'll get true inter operability and standards. Regards, Jim Langston Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:20:56 -0400 From: Jon.Paris@hal.it Subject: Education (was RPG Trivia) >> Do you all feel that, on the average, programmers coming out of college are lees knowledgeable I don't know about the knowledge level - certainly they are versed in a wider range. Twenty years ago they weren't being taught browsers, Java, Windows, etc. etc. on top of the basics. Just RPG/COBOL/C/FORTRAN. With the S/38 I figured I knew about 75% of the system. With the AS/400 it became about 50% - by the time the iSeries arrived I figured I was down to about 25%. Increase the number of topics and the skill level in any one area inevitably drops. I do feel that waaaaayyyy too many these days get into it for the money and often have zero aptitude. We consider ourselves lucky with the grads we've hired here in the last 2 years and we're still only batting .500! +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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