RE: Programmers VS Consultants

What I was saying is that the Company takes the programming staff and now
their job titles are Consultants.  There responsibilities now are to consult
the users and find other ways, avenues etc., in place of making
Modifications to programs.

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Colin Williams [mailto:Williamsc@technocrats.co.uk]
                Sent:   Monday, November 22, 1999 6:50 AM
                To:     'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
                Subject:        RE: Programmers VS Consultants

                Like the saying goes, 

                If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

                >-----Original Message-----
                >From: Robert Bergstrom [mailto:rbergst@hotmail.com]
                >Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 12:18 PM
                >To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
                >Subject: Re: Programmers VS Consultants
                >
                >
                >It is far too easy to blame the consultant.  They show up
for 
                >a short period 
                >of time and companies expect them to perform miracles.  We 
                >have had 3 month 
                >contracts that have turned into year plus contracts, but it
is because 
                >companies approve of our work and want more done.  We have
also had 
                >contracts that we get done what we are contracted for and
get 
                >out because 
                >some companies want everything for nothing and any problem 
                >associated with a 
                >system becomes the consultants fault, even when the problem

                >existed prior to 
                >the consultant touching the code.  My point is, maybe you
had a bad 
                >experience with A SINGLE CONSULTANT/FIRM or you are one of
those other 
                >companies I talked about, but either way there are good and
bad 
                >people/companies on both sides of the fence and you cann't 
                >lump everyone 
                >into a single group.
                >
                >Bob Bergstrom
                >Technology Solutions Inc.
                >Perrysburg, OH 43551
                >Phone: (419) 666-7190
                >WWW:   http://www.teksol.com
                >
                >
                >>From: JGracetri@aol.com
                >>Reply-To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
                >>To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
                >>Subject: Re: Programmers VS Consultants
                >>Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 09:59:14 EST
                >>
                >>HOW DOES A CONSULTANT MAKE MONEY? ANSWER. BILLING YOU FOR 
                >HOURS WORKED.
                >>
                >>*NOTE. UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMEONE TO OVERSEE THE CONSULTANT.
YOU 
                >WILL GET A
                >>SHORT TERM SOLUTION(I.E. A PRGRAM OR SYSTEM THAT WILL
REQUIRE THE 
                >>CONSULTANT
                >>AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, SO THE PROGRAM OR SYTEM IS DESIGNED
TO 
                >BE OUTDATED 
                >>FROM
                >>DAY OF IMPLEMENTATION).
                >>
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