Re: PHP with Laravel on IBMi

Don,

Laravel does inspire loyalty and has a huge cross-platform community and good documentation.

Laravel on IBM i has enough traction that there is an open source IBM i - specific extension to the Laravel database class:
https://www.seidengroup.com/2023/01/18/connecting-to-ibm-i-db2-with-the-laravel-php-framework/

To me, the big question with Laravel and other frameworks is maintenance and upkeep. As new versions come out, and as PHP itself gets updated, you need to upgrade to new versions of Laravel. Some upgrades are quick, while others take more time. Frameworks that do more also require more maintenance and upgrades. You need to be committed to the framework. Frameworks that are more bare bones, such as Slim, require less upkeep.

Alan

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On Sep 14, 2023, at 9:31 AM, Pete Helgren <pete@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Don,

I haven't worked with it much. I use BookStack CMS to host books I have written. It runs on i (of course) and uses Laravel. What I like is that in the case of BookStack, Laravel allows you easily override existing exiting "base" functionality that you have written, much like having a library of core functions and then putting another library in the library list ahead of it that modifies or overrides a function. It's pretty simple in concept and implementation.

That is always the advantage of using a framework, you get lots of helpful OOTB functionality you don't have to write. Weighing that against the bulk and learning curve of a framework is the challenge.

Pete Helgren
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On 9/14/2023 1:00 AM, Don Brown via WEB400 wrote:

Hi All

We are relatively new to PHP and have been building a few applications in
just PHP - no frameworks.

And at this stage have been quite happy with the results.

We initially ran the Zend server from IBM and have recently installed the
Community edition from Alan Sieden.

I am trying to understand what benefits we would get by adding Laravel to
the mix ?

This is not something I have knowledge about and am trying to find ...
well what does it actually do. I have watched some utube videos and read
a number of documents but I think I am more confused now!

So what am I asking ...

Is anyone using Laravel with PHP on IBMi and if so why ?

What benefits can I get from Laravel ? or for that matter is there another
framework that would be recommended with PHP on IBMi ?

Can you recommend any resources - documents, videos that I may be able to
get a better view or why I might want to use it ?

Thanks

Don




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