Re: Web Intro Videos (was rpg webservices asynchronous)

You shouldn't need an RPG person to teach HTML, CSS, Javascript or Apache.
They are universal (Apache is close) on all platforms.

There are a TON of free tutorials out there. And some paid ones (I believe
my eRPG and CGIDEV2 books also included basic HTML).

What I'd like is someone to use whats available instead of asking for
more. Taking of more than you can can chew by trying to create a web
service using a "Wizard" or proprietary 3rd party tool as their intro to
the web applications/web services/CGI/etc is just asking for trouble.

If you want to be chauffeured your whole life, hire it out. If you want
to drive, find a teacher.

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On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:10 PM Jon Paris <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'm pretty sure Paul Tuohy did this first stage eons ago. Also Giovanni
has text-based introductory material on the Easy400 site.

Anyway I'll give it some thought but frankly I think that there are
probably better uses for my video creation skills right now than to go over
what is pretty old ground for most who are likely to ever build a web page
from scratch. But that's just me - maybe others will feel differently.


Jon Paris

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On Apr 8, 2019, at 4:36 PM, Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I needed to start at a lower level.

1. apache and html. no cgi. just a splash screen.
2. Come up with a specific example. Nothing hypothetical or that
promises rainbows & glitter. Hello World stuff.
3. It's not of any use if the end product is "Here's a .json file."
So yes, it has to include HTML. Exactly how that is handled becomes
a part of the problem.

Are there some hurdles? Sure. The whole idea that it has to include

webmaster stuff seems a bridge too far, but if I can do it, it's doable by
any RPG programmer out there.

The decisions about cgi, php, python, java, javascript, .css and on and

on is a tough one; lots of good & valid experiences. That discussion is way
out there though; maybe that is a Level 3 or Level 4 discussion?

As a for instance, if a person came away from session 1 being able to

get the Apache servers started and change the "Apache Default" screen
replaced by a screen that says "Jon is the MAN!" ... well... that a pretty
good step 1 In my opinion. If the page also had a photo of someone's dog?
well, that'd just showing off, right?

On 4/8/2019 1:42 PM, Jon Paris wrote:

I changed the Subject line as we are off on a tangent,

For #1 I assume you mean Apache and HTML, and CGI ? But do you talk to

other options? PHP, Python, etc. etc. It used to be simpler before we got
into Javascript and web services and ...

Not sure I understand what you mean by #2 at all.

As for #3 - are we talking simply editing html?



Jon Paris

www.partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com

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