Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: ibm_db node module and IBM Data Server Driver

..it's probably just an AIX port running under PASE so I doubt very much there's any significant different between the IBM i port and a standard *nix version but Aaron might know. I certainly wouldn't expect there to be any significant differences, and I'd hope not, otherwise we'd likely lag ever further behind the current version.

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From: WEB400 <web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Kelly Cookson <KCookson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 10 April 2018 18:25
To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: Re: [WEB400] [EXTERNAL] Re: ibm_db node module and IBM Data Server Driver

Hi Tim,

I don't know about the V8 engine on the IBM i either. I really would like to know how node on the IBM i handles the compilation of JavaScript to machine code with the V8 engine. I can't find much with Google searches with this level of information.

Everyone,

If anyone knows where I can learn more about how node on the IBM i handles worker threads (libuv) and compiles JavaScript (V8 engine), then please let me know. If it works the same on the IBM I as on other systems, the I would like to know that, too.

Thanks,

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From: WEB400 [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Fathers
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 11:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [WEB400] [EXTERNAL] Re: ibm_db node module and IBM Data Server Driver

All high level languages are compiled into machine language of course, it's just a question of when that happens. In the V8 engine it is done "just-in-time" (JIT) like the Java JVM, but this is still most likely not as fast as "ahead of time" (AOT) compilation so it will usually lose out to an AOT compiled program like RPG or COBOL. I say usually because I'm lead to believe by someone that should know, that the Java JVM is so advanced now that it can optimise code on the fly according to how it's being used and can therefore equal or outperform some AOT compiled code, but I don't think the Node V8 engine is that sophisticated although I don't know that much about it.


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Sent: 10 April 2018 16:48
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Subject: Re: [WEB400] [EXTERNAL] Re: ibm_db node module and IBM Data Server Driver

Hard to believe that a technology that is interpreted at its heart would outperform compiled programs.

JavaScript is supposed to be compiled to machine language by the V8 engine in Node.JS. Can't run any faster than machine language.

Is this not true for the IBM i?

Thanks,

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Hard to believe that a technology that is interpreted at its heart would outperform compiled programs.


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On Apr 10, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Kelly Cookson <KCookson@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:KCookson@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:KCookson@xxxxxxxxxxxx%3cmailto:KCookson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:

Again, I'm not saying CGI is a bad decision. I'm sure it works perfectly fine in many cases.

If a company wants to handle very high volumes of concurrent requests quickly (think Walmart, eBay, PayPal or Amazon Brand Stores), then node may perform better than CGI. We would like to choose the technology that can better handle any amount of growth.

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From: WEB400 [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Schoen
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [WEB400] ibm_db node module and IBM Data Server Driver

Reasoning to avoid CGI ?

Still smokin fast after all these years and you might get your COBOL team to progress.

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date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 12:51:50 +0000
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subject: Re: [WEB400] [EXTERNAL] Re: ibm_db node module and IBM Data
Server Driver

We don't to use CGI if we can avoid it.

Thanks,

Kelly Cookson
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From: WEB400 [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bradley Stone
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 7:45 AM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [WEB400] ibm_db node module and IBM Data Server Driver

You could create web services using COBOL (or RPG) as well, if that's the main programing language.

Easily send JSON (or XML. blech...) data back to the requestor. All you'd really need is YAJL or something similar.


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