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That is true, and it is also the reason I say that frameworks make things easier. BTW, I never said RDI was a framework, just a tool like SEU, except that SEU provides virtually no help when developing complex applications.

Mark Murphy
STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
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To: "Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)" <web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 06/15/2015 11:29AM
Subject: Re: [WEB400] What's the median age of the developers in your shop?

I would say it more due to the idea that they never had a framework and they are used to writing it all. RDi/RDp/WDSC is an IDE not a framework.

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In my limited experience, the right frameworks do make you job easier because they do the grunge work for you, and leave just the business logic for you to code. RPG developers, that I have known, resist frameworks, not because they make thier job harder, but because they can't see everything in one place. I believe that this is mostly because they have resisted the tools they need to make thier lives easier (WDSC/RDi), and stuck to SEU with a religious fervor.

Mark Murphy
STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


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To: "Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)" <web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Nathan Andelin <nandelin@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 06/12/2015 05:19PM
Subject: Re: [WEB400] What's the median age of the developers in your shop?


Are there traditional IBM i developers making an exclusive switch to
web and mobile development?


I've mentored about half a dozen who have made the switch to developing browser user interfaces nearly exclusively. Most were senior-level people.

(That is, developers that stop doing RPG/COBOL/CL/DDS and start doing only
PHP, Java, Node.JS, .NET, HTML5, CSS3, Javascript.)


One doesn't have to give up RPG and COBOL to handle requests from browsers and generate appropriately formatted responses, unless dictated by employers.

RPG and COBOL programmers tend to resist languages, frameworks, and developer tools that make it harder to develop applications. They tend to resist technologies that make their jobs harder.

I'm not sure if this is age-related or not.
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