Re: Fwd: Reading data

Point of clarification on Phil's last post. While Net.Data is no longer
supported on every other platform, it is my understanding that it is still
supported by IBM Rochester for IBM i. I would leave it up to folks like
Alison Butterill and Tim Rowe to discuss for how long, though. Phil's
other points are quite salient, however. Even if you just code PHP
procedurally, which is the model you would use for Net.Data, you would
have a future to move toward OO based PHP simply through example and
organic growth.

Ok, 'nuff preachin'

Happy Weekend, all!

Mike
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From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Phil McCullough
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 3:22 PM
To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
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Subject: Re: [WEB400] Fwd: Reading data

We used net.data for many years running our business-critical websites:
serving up eCommerce, taking registrations, tracking continuing-education
classes, and many other dynamic functions. While it "worked", we finally
moved away from because: 1) it is no longer supported, 2) it has
limitations, 3) only a handful of people on this planet know how to make
it work, and 4) it does not comform to modern software design paradigms.

My advice for what it's worth --> stay far, far away from net.data;
instead, look to the future and invest in modern languages and tools: PHP,
ASP.Net, JSP, etc.

Phil

On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:09 AM, "Jon Paris" <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Just as a follow up to my note below - I used the wayback machine and it

would seem that the "real" ignite400.org went dark between May 9th, 2008
and August 8th, 2008.

There may be other sites that can help with Net.data but this is the

only one I know of and that is clearly no longer useful and indeed ceased
to exist 4.5 years ago.

Begin forwarded message:

From: Jon Paris <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: January 19, 2013 9:45:01 AM EST
To: web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Reading data


On 2013-01-19, at 12:22 AM, web400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Peter, Thank you. I have been reading through the Net.Data pages.
I realize now that I have never looked at Net.Data. It is what I
believe I am looking for.

The IBM documentation I have found so far is not up to the usual
high standards set by IBM. Also I have heard little buzz about
Net.Data and that has me a bit worried.

But you are using it and like it so my bet is that it will do what I

want.

Booth - I really think this is a bad idea for two reasons.

1) Why teach them a tool that is obsolete before they start? It is not

supported on any other platform and has not been enhanced in eons. the
only support for it used to come from www.ignite400.org but that site no
longer exists - that alone should tell you something. having to use the
wayback machine to find answers to questions is not goodness.

2) It is no more native than PHP. Both come with the box. But with
PHP you have hundreds of web sites, discussions groups, books,
college classes, etc. to help you learn. Plus PHP continues to
evolve. Try finding help with mobile apps written in Net.Data

By all means teach RPG based techniques but please don't waste people's

time on a tool that is going nowhere. For those using Net.Data today it is
fine to continue it - but it makes no sense for people starting from
scratch.

If you want other alternatives Project WOW will give you the simple

editable tables you want and that's free. Same for powerExt and
Renaissance and ...

Jon Paris

www.partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com

Jon Paris

www.partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com




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