Re: Question on a Basic Website for My Uncle's Business

Mike,
I agree. But I was taking from the approach that I've done the playing.
I've done both hand coding and CMS. CMS is not always the right solution.
It can in a lot of instances, but its not always. I have a bit of domain
knowledge with respect to his Uncle's business, so I was trying to make
more of a practical approach based on my experience with that market and
culture. From a tech standpoint I agree with you, but from the problem
description, I stick by my recommendation on this one.


Thanks
Bryce Martin
Programmer/Analyst I
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Bryce,

I agree that it is overkill. But a minimalist attitude tends to get us
IBM i folks into trouble. If he wants to make this a learning experience,
then I say play away. Maybe create the pages manually and then still work
with the CMS to see how that compares. I don't know about you, but every
time I build a web page based upon a customer request, I get more
requests, and then more, and then more. A CMS based system may not only
be a learning experience, but also an insurance policy. You know what
happens, hand code this time and then hand code next time. Pretty soon
there is so much content in the hand coded screens that by the time you
realize you need a more streamlined approach like a CMS it is too much
work and you have a built in excuse to continue hand coding. DIRTFT!

Regardless of language or technology, I for one would encourage everyone
to get out there and PLAY and if you don't have an excuse, call me and
I'll make one up!

Regards,

Mike

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Hand code, hand code, hand code. Its not worth the hassle of setting up
and maintaining a cms over a brochure page with a contact form. Go
download a small little PHP contact form script, slap it on a page and
you're done.


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Bryce Martin
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I already am running my own server. The 50+ hits a month won't be
noticed. He is just a small one-man shop as a retirement job.

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Mike Wills
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On Jul 7, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Jorge Merino <jorge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

If the only thing that you want is a plain, simply HTML page and don't

want to bother about hosting services, installing or create a complex
design from scratch, then I'll probably would go with Google sites.

With Google sites you can create a Web Page as if you would be creating

a Word Document.

You can also add Google Analytics and Google Web Master tools.
It is also integrated with Google Docs and Google Apps Script gadgets,

and most of the Google technologies.

The Down side is that you do not have much control over margin sizes,

but if you get creative you can do lots of things with it.

It also gives you the ability to mask a web domain to the hosting

service and you'll not notice that is under google sites.

It is Free, if you bother with the "Powered by Google Sites" message at

the bottom of the pages, then you probably want a paid service.

You only need gmail accounts to maintain the pages.

--jmerinoh


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Okay, this isn't "400 related", but am looking for other web experts
opinions.

My uncle wants a website for his tractor repair business. In all

honestly, a

couple HTML pages and it could be written and done. However, me being

me, I

want to plan for the long-run. Would it be worth me taking a bit more

time

and create it in WordPress pages so it would be easy to make changes

(maybe

even have him make the changes) or would you keep it simple and just do
basic HTML pages and I would have to make any changes he would want in

the

future.

I am leaning towards a core PHP framework in HTML5 (to keep design away

from

content) and basically keep most everything static. But like I said, I

can

see the benefit of a CMS.

What would you do?

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Mike Wills
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