Re: PHP Books at Sitepoint

On 12/15/2010 5:24 PM, Kevin Schroeder wrote:

Nothing has instant uptake. Java 6 4 years old and has 70%, Java 5 (EOLed) at 8% or so. Those are the desktop numbers I could find. I could not find numbers for the server side. The best comparison would be Java 5 to PHP 4 since both were EOLed within a few months of each other. Java 5 lives on! I never said that PHP 5 had an instant uptake, nor did I say it happened quickly. The _initial_ uptake was slow. That was the period between 2006 and 2008. A lot of the true migrations started after 5.2 was released in 2007.

Dude, this is silly. Comparing EOL dates is daft. Java 5 came out at the same time as PHP5. And since then Java 6 came out and Java 7 is coming. (PHP has had point releases, but we're not sure when PHP6 might come out.)

My only point - my ONLY point - is that PHP4 vs PHP5 discussions have still been happening quite recently. Not everyone has migrated, people are still doing it. You say all conversions happened back in 2007 (several years ago) and then you contradict yourself by saying the migrations only started then. You don't really counter any of my anecdotal evidence, including the fact that your own company still offers a migration service.

This has reached a point of diminishing returns. I'm going to go read my eBook! :)

Joe