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I have the same objections to the content Mike posts re: Java. It's okay
to advocate for your own technology, but to try to run >>down the
"competition" with silly name-calling and disparaging remarks is a bit
ridiculous

Hopefully all will take these objections into account , and all means
everyone, even Joe!, regardless of the technology mentioned ;-)

We shall see how long this lasts.......!

- Maurice O'Prey

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mike Pavlak
Sent: 14 December 2010 13:28
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] The ASF Resigns From the JCP Executive Committee

My humblest apologies. I should not have stooped to name calling. Please
forgive my outbursts.

Regards,

Mike

mike.p@xxxxxxxx Cell: (408)679-1011 Office: (630)928-1476

Zend Server for IBM i avilable at
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-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Dean, Robert
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 5:27 AM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] The ASF Resigns From the JCP Executive Committee

I have the same objections to the content Mike posts re: Java. It's okay to
advocate for your own technology, but to try to run down the "competition"
with silly name-calling and disparaging remarks is a bit ridiculous.
________________________________________
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Joe Pluta [joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:32 AM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] The ASF Resigns From the JCP Executive Committee

Okay, I'll respond to a few specific points just because they're so very
egregious.

If there were a battle in the PHP community I would expect a "fork" in the
project.

Yeah, kind of like the fork in the PHP community and the branch called
THE_5_4_THAT_ISNT_5_4. Read, man, read. It's out there!

Dude, I may say that Java was difficult for me to learn. But I would
never disparage it (except for comic relief).

First you call WebSphere "WebsFear".


In fact, Zend Server CE supports the JavaBridge which is based upon an
open source project and is designed for recovering Java Developers trying to
work through their 12 steps in the world of PHP.

And THEN you disparage Java.

This isn't comic relief. This is calling Java "too complex", one of
those standard talking points. It's not "too complex", it's just "more
complex" because it does so much more. For example, why don't you
remind us, Mike; what language is Zend Studio written in?

You want to advocate PHP? Sure, go ahead. But you probably don't want
to try to sell it as a better programming language than Java. It may be
a better solution for a specific task, but an enterprise programming
language it ain't.

Joe
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