Re: Would you take a complimentary course on HTML from acompany whose website looked like this?

LOL - background music is a bit overrated - I once wrote an app for a company that rebuilds locomotives. It was something for the on-site people to enter data, then bring it back to the office. I did this in dBase IV, I think, and I made it play the first phrase of "I've been workin' on the rail-------road" as the app started - that got keboshed very quickly!!!

Vern

Raul A. Jager W. wrote:

I will like to be great at every thing: like being able to create a nice looking design, with the data well aranged using the ideal fonts, colors and position for every item. Also to create a great looking frame not to heavy, not to simple. Also to be able to compose a beatifull backgroung music for each page. But, time and ability to learn is limited, so I rather rely on "team work".

Mike Pavlak wrote:

Michael,

Thank you for your honesty! It is refreshing in many cases. If you'll
permit me to peel back one more layer of the onion let me ask you one
question. Do you (or anyone else on this thread) believe your
limitations regarding "the whole visual thing" is a choice or a
handicap?
I will offer my own personal experience once I have seen a few responses
as I would rather not taint the well of free thought. I do believe
education is paramount to staying current whether it is free or for
charge. And by that I mean the act of learning and not just sitting
through a webinar because the boss told you to. In today's
technological society, if you are not moving forward you are standing
still. And if everyone else is moving forward around you that means you
will probably get run over. It may be an overused saying but it sure
feels like what's going on out there!

Regards,

Mike

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-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Michael Ryan
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 7:31 AM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Would you take a complimentary course on HTML from
acompany whose website looked like this?

I think that's a great point Kelly. I think I'm among a lot of iSeries
folks
that think in terms of lists. That's our background. And I know when
I've
designed web sites, it looks like a list of 'things' cause that's the
way I
think. I can produce some really nice ETL code for loading to web sites,
and
I can write some really good code to process orders from web sites, but
the
whole visual thing isn't me.

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Kelly Cookson
<KCookson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

For all we know the source behind gotomeeting page was auto-generated

code

(or at least partially auto-generated). The source behind BCD's home

page is

better. At any rate, like Mike said earlier, the only way to fairly

judge

the quality of the webinar is to attend it.

I also agree with Vern: the excellent tutorials at www.w3schools.com

are

probably just as good or better than the webinar in terms of the

information

provided. Yet, some people are auditory learners and want to hear the
information from a live teacher. They will also have the benefit of

being

able to ask questions.

I think these posts do raise an interesting question of how

RPG/COBOL/CL

programmers should be retrained in IBM i modernization. Do we really

expect

people who are great at developing RPG and COBOL programs to be great

at

designing web pages as well?

Kelly Cookson
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Dot Foods, Inc.
217-773-4486 x12676
www.dotfoods.com

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

On

Behalf Of Dean, Robert
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 6:47 AM
To: web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Would you take a complimentary course on HTML

>from a

company whose website looked like this?

The ugly part isn't necessarily how the page looks, it's the HTML

behind

that page.

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

On

Behalf Of Tom Deskevich
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 7:39 AM
To: web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [WEB400] Would you take a complimentary course on HTML from a
company whose website looked like this?

Shoot me, but I don't think it looks that bad. I guess I have spent

too

many
years with 5250.
I guess we don't' care if it works or flows well, or how long it takes

to

bring the page up, just how pretty it is.
That is the difference is taking wares to the market now I guess. It

HAS to

look good first.

Tom Deskevich
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