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Pete,

I'm the same way. Unfortunately instructor led training is not an option at the moment. I like to use our community colleges for this type of thing when I can and for the same reasons you mentioned. After two years of trying to teach myself C and C++ I realized I needed the resources available from a classroom setting and the homework assignments to give me something to work on.

Rick

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From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pete Helgren
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 11:22 AM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] JAVA coding environment

All good replies so far and good counsel.

The OO stuff was the biggest hurdle for me. I had done some VB, C and some C++ programming so I had a fairly good handle on what I thought an object was but it wasn't quite enough.

I struggled with "do it yourself" coding for about 4 months and then I took a beginning level Java class and I LOVED it. Worth every penny. I am a hands on learner so being in class where I could ask questions, break stuff and get help fixing and understanding the "fix" was invaluable. I DO recommend starting first with some self study (the Java for RPG programmers book was helpful to me) but then, get in an instructor led class (like those from Learningtree) and get some assisted learning help.

Pete


Rick.Chevalier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
I hope this is the best place for this post. I debated between here and PC-Tech.

My frustration level has been reached trying to use WDSC as a JAVA development environment. Yesterday I spent many hours trying to test a simple 'hello world' applet that took two minutes to code. I need something simpler.

For those of you doing JAVA development, what development environments do you use?

Here are my needs as I think I understand them today:
1) Learn the JAVA language
2) Gain an understanding of OO concepts
3) Understand applets and the use of java script in web pages
4) Ultimately understand the role of JAVA in web services so when WDSC builds a service I know what all the JAVA pieces are doing.
5) Possible write the web service pieces from scratch.

Rick Chevalier




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