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Alfredo...my bad. Forgot the "o"

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jim Dillard
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:22 PM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Zend Platform Pricing

Alfred,

Some clarification: Zend prices Platform for i5/OS based on the number
of Cores/processors used in the partition that will run PHP. My guess
is your 550 will run MORE than just PHP applications so you would
probably only be charged for one CPU (ie, $4250 per year).

My recommendation would be to contact your sales representative (Ann
Crichton - Ann.Crichton@xxxxxxxx) for pricing as there are different
options: many people prefer to leverage Platform and/or support prior
to production in order to speed them through development & Q/A. Others
only consider support and/or Platform once an application rolls into
production. More options -- depends on your needs. Hope this helps
clarify.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Alfredo Delgado
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:57 PM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Zend Platform Pricing

Hi Nathan,

I'm wondering how the deal actually went down for existing customers. If
you'd like more info on what I'm talking about follow the link in my
original post and look at the table with pricing. The price isn't listed
as
$4,250 per year. It says $4,250 per year per processor. In a system
running
on 3 processors that's about "$13k a year for some upgrades and the
privilege of running on the platform."

Alfred

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Nathan Andelin <nandelin@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Hi Alfredo,

I'm not a Zend Platform customer. But you may want to rephrase your
question. I didn't understand it. Are you asking for opinions about
the
$4,250 per year license fee?

I was also confused about what the $13K fee included, and if you were
asking for opinions about that.

Nathan.




----- Original Message ----
From: Alfredo Delgado
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries <web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:10:26 PM
Subject: [WEB400] Zend Platform Pricing

Has anyone on the list deployed Zend Platform?

I've been running PHP and MySQL in PASE since before Zend and MySQL
released
official IBM i packages. I have sorely missed the benefits of the i5
toolkit
in Core. A while back I installed Zend Core and found that I had
problems
writing files to the IFS -- some extra chars were getting written that
left
the file unreadeable to Core. I sent a request up my chain of command
for
Zend Platinum support. That request fell apart when I continued to
lobby
for
24/7 support after someone pointed out that gold support is cheaper.

After attending COMMON and seeing the possibilities for the 5250
Bridge I
came back and made a request for Zend Platform. My boss liked the idea
and
I've been working on him by pointing out the extra steps I have to
take
whenever I run into a task that the i5 toolkit can perform quicker.
Looking
at the pricing on this page
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/i/software/php/products.html, however,
I'm
left thinking there's no way we'll ever wring enough value from
Platform to
justify it.

$4250 per processor per year?! and that doesn't include support?! I'd
appreciate some insight from anyone who has established a Zend
Platform
license. Am I missing something in thinking I'm being asked for $13k a
year
for some upgrades and the privilege of running on the platform?

I've gotten a quote for a value pack that includes Platform, Studio,
MySQL
Enterprise, Zend Gold support and MySQL Silver support. With the
impression
that the table at the link above leaves, this package seems very
reasonable
by comparison. Even my boss could contemplate paying that sum every
year.
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