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The JavaScript is very controllable on the server. Depending upon the
situation the server can dynamically select or create the required
JavaScript and send this to the client.

The processing on the client is controlled by the output of the server, even
if the server is not directly specifying the presentation layout of the
page.

Syd




-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Walden H. Leverich
Sent: 17 July 2008 15:38
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] The "Presentation" Layer

Now we're seeing a shift to JavaScript frameworks that render
themselves as DOM objects.

Will we see client-side in certain high-profile apps? Sure. You already
see it in gmail, and mlb's game-day-live and other "wizbang" sites. But
I don't think you're seeing a real shift though, just the appearance of
one. :)

I strongly believe that the vast majority of web applications are still
going to be developed using server-side tech for the next number of
years. Sure the client side stuff is cool, and it's gets lots of press,
but at the end of the day the serverside stuff is more controllable.

-Walden

PS. Remember, too, client-side is _really_ cutting edge and the majority
of code in the world is still cobol! :)

--
Walden H Leverich III
Tech Software
(516) 627-3800 x3051
WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.TechSoftInc.com

Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)


-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Nathan Andelin
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:53 AM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] The "Presentation" Layer

From: Aaron Bartell
Nathan, I would consider many of the API's you have in your
product the presentation layer API's.

That's an interesting point, Aaron. And it's true that I use my API's
to dynamically generate HTML. And if we're seeing a shift from using
server side technology to generate HTML. That kind-of makes the
server-side technology obsolete. Or does it?

Microsoft invested a ton in creating UI widgets that render as HTML on
the server. Same with vendors of JSF tooling. Now we're seeing a shift
to JavaScript frameworks that render themselves as DOM objects. No HTML
is generated.

Nathan.




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