Re: RPG and AJAX was->RE: How do I create a web page that

>First, because AJAX is relatively complex and certainly far from standard,
it costs development dollars.  "Give them more than what they expect" is the
kind of technology for technology's sake that gets IT departments in
trouble: Yeah, it looks really sexy, but I didn't have time to actually get
the business functions done.  (Other than that, how was the play, Mrs.
Lincoln?)

I agree with you to a point, but somebody has to push the envelope and I
guess that is what I like doing.  I should be careful not to push others in
the same direction with suggestions. 

>Second, I don't see how AJAX is anything like "the days of the 5250
interface".  If anything, it gets them away from green screen, since the
green screen is inherently a block-mode device.

I was more talking about how with green screens you don't get a blank screen
(i.e. in the browser a white screen) every time you send something to the
controller and back. With AJAX you can hide a lot of those round trip
interactions with smaller interactions. Are you increasing the trips to the
server? Yep, probably by quite a lot, but they are much smaller transactions
that have much smaller amounts of data going back and forth, and in the end
I believe the user experience is much enhanced.

I think we are on the same page for the most part, it just to us a couple
emails to realize it.

Aaron Bartell


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From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Pluta
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 2:52 PM
To: 'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WEB400] RPG and AJAX was->RE: How do I create a web page that

> From: albartell
>
> Give them more than what they expected out of the IT dept. This is 
> something the user doesn't know exists but they want it desperately.  
> Older users will recognize AJAX functionality bringing them back to 
> the days of the  5250 interface

For the record, IANBA (I am not bashing AJAX).  As I've said before, I'm
sure it has some good applications.  But I disagree with this statement on a
couple of levels.

First, because AJAX is relatively complex and certainly far from standard,
it costs development dollars.  "Give them more than what they expect" is the
kind of technology for technology's sake that gets IT departments in
trouble: Yeah, it looks really sexy, but I didn't have time to actually get
the business functions done.  (Other than that, how was the play, Mrs.
Lincoln?)

Second, I don't see how AJAX is anything like "the days of the 5250
interface".  If anything, it gets them away from green screen, since the
green screen is inherently a block-mode device.  The biggest pushback to GUI
from older users is all the point and click stuff, and while some users
might appreciate the screen being auto-populated as they type, others might
not be so receptive.

Just something to think about.

Joe

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