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> It will be interesting if the iSeries dating PHP > turns into marriage in the next couple years. I spent part of the morning following up on links to news, questions, commentaries, and developments related to PHP generally, and PHP on the iSeries specifically. It sounds likely that IBM will offer a supported version of PHP on the iSeries this year. As some have already mentioned, people are running it on the iSeries. Our model 800 currently hosts a PHP based e-commerce application right now. We also host a PHP based software catalog and forums on Intel servers. The Intel servers offer fairly snappy performance, while the iSeries sort of chugs. One forum member at www.i5php.net posted a comment about load testing a simple PHP page on an Intel server vs. the same script running on his iSeries. The Intel server performed better, by a factor of ten. He wondered why? The performance might have something to do with IBM hobbling the processor on entry level servers. Even with the latest announcements the $10,000 I5 models are hobbled to about 1/6 capacity. Customers can pay an extra $15,000 to IBM for a software activation key to disable the governor. Timothy Prickett Morgan, the editor at www.itjungle.com recently made a pitch, proposing that IBM reduce the price of the box, and unbundling the hardware from the software. He suggests charging separately for software and services, to enable the I5 to compete against Wintel and *nix servers. We have J2EE developers writing applications on laptops, then deploying them on the iSeries. They wonder why the server instance chugs. What gives? Some by-standers simply conclude that the JVM on the iSeries is inferior. It puts IBM, ISVs, and customers in a tough spot by supporting CPU intensive workloads like J2EE and PHP on the I5, but at a price / performance that's inferior to Intel counterparts. If IBM starts supporting PHP on the I5, and it become popular, maybe that will be a catalyst to motivate them to stop hobbling the processor. Microsoft puts three (3) Power5 processors, evidently running full bore in the Xbox, and sells it for $500. albartell <albartell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: PHP vs. RPG CGI is a toss up for me - I am a Java fan for web apps. Like you said native access is HUGE and saves a lot of time. And then having a language like PHP is really nice also where it was built with the web in mind - it even is OO now which opens some new doors for abstract framework building. It will be interesting if the iSeries dating PHP turns into marriage in the next couple years. It is close, but it isn't "out-of-the-box ready" yet. What would be really interesting is if IBM added PHP to the developer roadmap. That would give it a lot more face time. They could put it in the Application Refacing section here: http://www.developer.ibm.com/vic/hardware/portal/iii_pages/iii_tools_innov_e nhance Aaron Bartell --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.
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