Frankly, it sounds like a good idea to me...Soundoff at COMMON sounds good starting place....or perhaps the "town hall" meeting...we could do with a little less preaching to the choir and a little more listening to the clients...:)

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Nathan Andelin wrote:


Giovanni recently clarified on yahoo groups that the
open source license he wrote and published at
applied to other software provided on the site, but
not to CGIDEV2, which I'm sure was was a surprise to a
lot of people.

He promoted CGIDEV2 as "open source", but now
acknowledges that it wasn't.  Just before his
retirement from IBM, Giovanni requested that IBM
release the product as open source, but his request
was refused.  He indicated that he was reprimanded by
an IBM attorney, for allowing Mel to fix and enhance
the product after leaving IBM, and for distributing
Mel's changes.

Giovanni is now calling for a popular uprising to
pressure IBM into releasing its copyright.  Who knows
what the folks at IBM CTC may be thinking, other than
feeling reluctant to relinquish their rights.

Nathan M. Andelin

--- "Walden H. Leverich" <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

I did then ask the owner of CGIDEV2, the IBM CTC
to let me redistribute CGIDEV2 from my site, in
order to
provide future maintenance and enhancements.

OK, I'm confused. First, I am NOT a lawyer, but
having said that, if you
look at the license on the ibm site for CGIDEV2 it's
really clear that
anyone can modify the code and redistribute both the
original and the
modified versions. So, what does Giovanni need
permission for, and
what's IBM withholding. Seems to me Giovanni could
just put the code on
his site and he'd be doing nothing wrong.


Walden H Leverich III
Tech Software
(516) 627-3800 x11

Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)

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