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  3. April 2002

Mindless drivel...

You don't think connection pooling is beyond CGI :-) <VBG>

Sorry, the message was from last Friday, it just threw me for a loop...

Joel R. Cochran
Director of Internet Services
VamaNet.com
(800)480-8810
mailto:webmaster@vamanet.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: rob@dekko.com [mailto:rob@dekko.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 4:42 PM
> To: web400@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: [WEB400] Beyond RPG CGI
>
>
> This is a multipart message in MIME format.
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> How's about changing 'Beyond RPG CGI' to 'DB
> connection/pooling'?  That's
> what I meant, Joel.
>
> Rob Berendt
> --
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> Benjamin Franklin
>
>
>
>
> "Joel R. Cochran" <jrc@masi-brac.com>
> Sent by: web400-admin@midrange.com
> 04/09/2002 03:09 PM
> Please respond to web400
>
>
>         To:     "'web400@midrange.com'" <web400@midrange.com>
>         cc:
>         Fax to:
>         Subject:        RE: [WEB400] Beyond RPG CGI
>
>
> ?
>
> Joel R. Cochran
> Director of Internet Services
> VamaNet.com
> (800)480-8810
> mailto:webmaster@vamanet.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rob@dekko.com [mailto:rob@dekko.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: web400@midrange.com
> > Subject: RE: [WEB400] Beyond RPG CGI
> >
> >
> > This is a multipart message in MIME format.
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > Subject change please!
> >
> > Rob Berendt
> > --
> > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
> temporary
> > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> > Benjamin Franklin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Joel R. Cochran" <jrc@masi-brac.com>
> > Sent by: web400-admin@midrange.com
> > 04/05/2002 02:25 PM
> > Please respond to web400
> >
> >
> >         To:     "'web400@midrange.com'" <web400@midrange.com>
> >         cc:
> >         Fax to:
> >         Subject:        RE: [WEB400] Beyond RPG CGI
> >
> >
> > Brad,
> >
> > Would you be willing to post a short explanation of
> > DB/Connection Pooling?
> > Is it only for Web stuff or can I use it on stand alone Swing
> > applications?
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Joel R. Cochran
> > Director of Internet Services
> > VamaNet.com
> > (800)480-8810
> > mailto:webmaster@vamanet.com
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brad Stone [mailto:brad@bvstools.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:59 AM
> > > To: web400@midrange.com
> > > Subject: Re: [WEB400] Beyond RPG CGI
> > >
> > >
> > > Dan,
> > >
> > > Connection pooling will make a HUGE difference with your
> > > JDBC connections.  I would guestimate that you would see an
> > > increase of over 50% performance.  The connection is what
> > > takes the longest.
> > >
> > > Websphere has connection pooling built in, but if you're
> > > like me you like to roll your own.  I've got a connection
> > > pooling and database pooling objects.
> > >
> > > So, at startup I load all the db pools, then each db pool
> > > has it's own connection pool.
> > >
> > > Made a huge difference in my little apps that I mess around
> > > with.  And pooling, once understood, is really very simple.
> > > You don't need Websphere for it.
> > >
> > > Brad
> > > On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:32:34 -0700
> > >  "Eyers, Daniel" <daniel.eyers@honeywell.com> wrote:
> > > > That's sort of where we are... Having achieved a
> > > > "critical mass" of knowledge with our developers (who
> > > > have struggled
> > > > heroically with RPG v. Java), we are having trouble
> > > > keeping up with the demand we created.
> > > >
> > > > One of our next steps is getting the box tuned a little
> > > > better for web applications.  It tends to drag with use.
> > > > We may
> > > > have gotten to the point where JDBC starts to lose it's
> > > > appeal (in favor of native 400 connections).  However, we
> > > > are
> > > > not yet using connection pooling, so maybe that will
> > > > help....
> > > >
> > > > dan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hatzenbeler, Tim [mailto:thatzenbeler@clinitech.net]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 4:58 PM
> > > > To: 'web400@midrange.com'
> > > > Subject: RE: [WEB400] Beyond RPG CGI
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader
> > > > does not understand
> > > > this format, some or all of this message may not be
> > > > legible.
> > > > --
> > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > > Amen....  I know I have been trying to sell these
> > > > capabilities to our
> > > > managers, and they finally gave me the freedom to write a
> > > > large intranet
> > > > web application... And they loved it...  It's fast, and
> > > > it handles indexing
> > > > through several million records in sub second response
> > > > times... And not only
> > > > that, I have been given more web projects...  They
> > > > actually prefer it on the
> > > > as/400, because they know the as/400 has such a nice
> > > > database, plus it's
> > > > reliable.....  I just had to show them what it could do..
> > > >
> > > > tim
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From:              Jim Langston [SMTP:jlangston@celsinc.com]
> > > > > Sent:              Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:53 PM
> > > > > To:                'web400@midrange.com'
> > > > > Subject:           RE: [WEB400] Beyond RPG CGI
> > > > >
> > > > > Part of the problem, I think, is that CIOs and Managers
> > > > don't understand
> > > > > the
> > > > > AS/400 and what it's capable of.  They think of it as a
> > > > mainframe that's
> > > > > okay for business data and is programmed in some
> > > > obscure language called
> > > > > RPG, what, they playing Role Playing Games on these
> > > > things?
> > > > >
> > > > > Start letting CIOs and Managers know that, hey, the
> > > > AS/400 can also do C,
> > > > > C++, and now can do Linux, PERL, Java, etc... some of
> > > > the things they've
> > > > > heard about.  So they get a warm glowing feeling, if
> > > > all the RPG
> > > > > programmers
> > > > > drop off the face of the earth, they can get someone
> > > > out there to program
> > > > > in
> > > > > C, or Java, or PERL...
> > > > >
> > > > > I definitely agree, it is a problem of perception, not
> > > > reality.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim Langston
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Jon Paris [mailto:Jon.Paris@Partner400.com]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:23 AM
> > > > > To: web400@midrange.com
> > > > > Subject: [WEB400] Beyond RPG CGI
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  >> CIOs (and managers) who fail to understand that
> > > > will fail. period.
> > > > >
> > > > > <SNIP>
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem is one of perception - not reality.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jon Paris
> > > > > Partner400
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> > > Bradley V. Stone
> > > BVS.Tools
> > > www.bvstools.com
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