Re: Is RDi 9.5, RDP 8.0 or even WDSCi 7.0 still in use?

On Oct 29, 2020, at 2:09 PM, smith5646midrange@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

If I were able to use it 6 months or more during the year, I would agree
100% and buy it today.

However, I disagree with your statement about carpenters, mechanics,
doctors, etc. There are many in those trades that need "tools" that they
don't have and they rent them. While a carpenter will provide their own
hand tools, most do not own cranes or shooting boom forklifts for when they
need to put plywood or shingles on a roof. If they need one, they rent it.
Everyone weighs the return on investment to determine the value of a
purchase. This is the same reason individuals don't go out and buy IBM i
equipment to learn how to program it. The return on investment just isn't
there.

As for using installing and using my license on a client's laptop...as a
consultant, I am at the mercy of what companies will let me use and do.
Pretty much everywhere I have ever been, I am prohibited from installing MY
software on THEIR laptop. If there is a problem with the license key, THEY
are on the hook for the software licensing violation. So, in many places,
installation of anything that is not corporate owned is a violation of
company policy and grounds for dismissal.

Charles commented about doing a thumb drive install. Does anyone know if
that is possible? If so, that could sway my opinion on the return of
investment. Then I would only be blocked by the companies that have blocked
USB connections from unapproved devices...which has occurred in some
companies that I have been in to help eliminate viruses.


-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Jon Paris
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 8:40 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Is RDi 9.5, RDP 8.0 or even WDSCi 7.0 still in use?

As I said mainentance is only a couple fo hundred a year.

I never understand the reluctance of contractors to buy the tools of their
trade.

Would you expect a carpenter doing work for you to insist that you provide a
power saw or else he uses your hand saw? No - you expect him to bring his
own tools. He in turn writes those expenses off against his taxes. Same for
mechanics, doctors, etc.

On Oct 28, 2020, at 9:51 PM, smith5646midrange@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

Apparently I never drilled down far enough. I was on the website

https://www.ibm.com/products/rational-developer-for-i/pricing

which states

Starting at
$968.00*
per user per year

Now that I've clicked on the purchase now button, I see there is an
option for an authorized user license at $1,180 that is not an annual
renewal. So I don't need to buy it every year but the version that I
buy now will be out of date by the time that I can use it again.
Still not a good option for me but thanks for the feedback that I was

looking at the wrong price.

-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Brian
Parkins
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 6:13 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Is RDi 9.5, RDP 8.0 or even WDSCi 7.0 still in use?

FWIW, it shouldn't be costing 1K USD each year. After the first year,
the costs are for SW Maintenance Agreement only - which gives you new
versions/releases as well as support and (free) fixes. Go for a
Perpetual Licence as an Authorised User.

https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/how-purchase-rdi
<https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/how-purchase-rdi>

However, despite the above, I don't disagree that cost is an inhibitor
for RDi adoption amongst freelancers and smaller enterprises.

Brian.

On 28/10/2020 21:47, smith5646midrange@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

I would like to upgrade to RDi but I just can't justify the $1,000 a

year for the little bit that I would get to use it which for the past
two years would have been "not at all".

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