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Steve,

I use a green screen tool from last century to open source based on Object. Including Generic names. Wrote it last century!

It call system API used for DSPOBJD & DSPPGM & DSPSRVPGM (And more API)to get the source file and then opens up the source!
Some of the api that I use: QBNLPGMI, QBNLSPGM, QBNRMODI, QBNDRSPGMI, QCMDCHK, etc...

If ever I get the time, that would be the first plugin I would write for RDI!

I got a lot of useful information on how to call IBM API from JCRCMD.COM. Samples makes it easier to follow...

I also use that Green screen tool, to see if the source does not match up... How I wish I could get that in my beloved RDI! <Big Smile>

Sample output:
-----Source------ -----Object------
Object Type Library Date Time Date Time
MYPROGRAM *PGM KKILLIAN 3/06/15 9:42:03 3/06/15 9:10:36 <-- NOTE OBJECT Date is LESS than the source change date! Ouch!

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Another view

Object Type Library Attr Library Source Member
MYPROGRAM *PGM KKILLIAN RPGLE KKILLIAN RPGTOOLBXC MYPROGRAM

3rd view:
Object Type Library Object Description
MYPROGRAM *PGM KKILLIAN Advance Order Modification

PS. I picked found an error in the RPG-Toolbox, and duplicate the error. And the sharp developers at Help-Systems fixed it in no TIME! Hats off to Ron B. :)

Source I create a test source file called "RPGTOOLBXC" for "Case" reported... <grin>

Help-System seem to hire NOTHING but sharp people! I have been impressed with all Help-System employees I have worked with since 1991! Wow!



-Ken Killian-


-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Steve Ferrell via WDSCI-L
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 2:50 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Steve Ferrell <Steve.Ferrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Save AS with RDi - local only?

Hi Ken,

We love all 3rd party plugins! RDi makes you more productive when we foster a robust 3rd party plugin environment.

When time permits we plan on exporting our public JavaDoc to make it easier for vendors to create plugins. The current Javadoc is nearly 10 years old!

Someday I hope to see a Ken plugin! <joy-joy>

Steve Ferrell



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 1:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Save AS with RDi - local only?

Doug,

Use "iSphere" source Search, it approximately 3 times faster than FNDSTRPDM! <Hint Hint> :) <thumbs up>

And about 10-times better too!

PS. Sorry Steve, but iSphere is a MUST-HAVE-FREE-PLUG-IN! <Big Smile>


-Ken Killian-


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Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 2:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Save AS with RDi - local only?

Steve,

QQ, how do/can you use option 25 on all the members in a source file. I do this in PDM as take option 3 WW Members --> put 25 on first member --> press F13 (shift+F1) to replicate the option to all the members in the list, then press Enter to get Find screen then Enter again to start. I normally have the find option set to display member.

Doug Belcher | IT Applications Specialist | White-Rodgers Emerson Commercial & Residential Solutions | 8100 West Florissant Avenue | St. Louis, Mo | 63136 | USA T 314 553 5872 | M 314 776 4461 Doug.Belcher@xxxxxxxxxxx

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [WDSCI-L] Save AS with RDi - local only?

Hi Vern,

Object Table quick filters DO allow multiple generics: IE *VERN* as an option. You can use these double *generics* on Library, File, or Member. Also, add the "Last modified" column and now you can sort that column to see what's changed recently. (Can't do that in PDM.)

Another bonus? Need to quickly look at a new connection but don't want to create a new one using RSE? No problem, put the connection name in. We'll prompt you for credentials and connect. No need to use RSE to create a new connection. We'll do it for you. Then the new connection will be displayed in RSE for using later.

Justin told you about the last 10 filters. There are also 2 arrows on the button bar that lets you navigate through the list back and forth.

Watch for more keyboard usage in the future. Our goal is to allow the Object Table view to use similar key mappings as PDM. So users don't need to grab for their mouse. The goal is to harness memory muscle that users have been doing in PDM for years.

PDM like function keys that work in version 9.6.0.5 in the Object table view:
F6 allows you to create a new Source Member
F9 gives you the command line, tab a few, type a command and F4 to prompt the command
F17 (Shift and F5) takes you to the Subset tab to let you subset your list live.

Steve Ferrell



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From: WDSCI-L <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Vernon Hamberg
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 10:42 AM
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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Save AS with RDi - local only?

Hi Steve

Yes, I knew about generics, I use it elsewhere for filters - I also have a filter with all our libraries that have source - the iSphere searches are astounding with filters like this.

Our libraries to not lend themselves to generics - unless you want to let us use regular expressions for the filter - maybe you already did this - the F17 options has a generic that lets you put the asterisk anywhere, even at the beginning, to give you an "ends-with" selectivity
- again, maybe you've done that already - PDM is the only place on IBM i that has that capability that I know of.

Cheers and much thanks for the work y'alll are doing with RDi.

Vern

On 2/8/2019 9:33 AM, Steve Ferrell via WDSCI-L wrote:
Hi Vern,

You can use generics on the library in the quick filter Example(VERN* or RHA*) and it will search in each of the libraries that match the pattern. It's much faster for finding a pattern member name too. Bonus, it finds them in VERNSRC, VERNCPYSRC, VERNPROD, VERNDEV, you get the picture.

If you use multiple libraries and files, its' best to customize the columns to include file and library. You can find those options under the Arrow down Justin spoke of > preferences. Just make sure that you select Member and Object (if you use both) and go back in to the menu again and select "show columns" > "customized". We hope to make this available from the customization pane in a future release so you don't have to do these 2 steps.

You "could" also just select "show columns" > "All" and you get all of the available fields.

Trust us, it's not just for new users, the power of Quick Filters is great for finding members regardless of the library or file. And bonus, you can save them for later if you want.

Some extra help on these from our friends at

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Steve Ferrell


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for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Save AS with RDi - local only?

LOL - so say you and so say Steve - looks like I'd better do it!

I will - it's been one of those things, like iProjects, that have seemed more effortful than useful when I looked at them. iProjects don't make sense here, since we use a CMS product. Rational Team Concert uses multiple iProjects, IIRC, to manage development on the i, and rather effectively. Arcad with GIT support uses them, as well, I believe, behind the covers. Because they are built over only a single library, they haven't worked for me - others on these lists do like them - so it be.

Thanks
Vern

On 2/8/2019 8:15 AM, Justin Taylor wrote:
As an aside, you should really check out Object Table view for source members. It does so much more than the Remote Systems view. The down triangle button -> "Work With" in the upper-right corner will do filtering (and save prior 10 filters). Then you're off to the races.



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Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 4:34 PM
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Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Save AS with RDi - local only?

Hi Justin

As I mentioned to Steve, I never use any of the "table" views. As for this, yeah, I'm not really talking about member filters as such - the library tree with "Expand to" source files could be where I'm going.

And most of my work is in a CMS, where I don't want to copy something
elsewhere - but maybe one of the tables will have me less in PDM -
the latter is fine of course.  :)

Vern

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