Re: 9.6 install

Doing the web install.

The verbiage above the progress bar says:

Installing: Connected to delivery04.dhe.ibm..com:80

and the progress bar is at the letter "o" in "Installation" under "Total
Installation Size: 1.73 GB" and has not moved in 30 minutes.



On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:15 PM, Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Yes, newbies roll their eyes at the install, but that is nothing...

Most are not use to windows, over the old Dumb terminals, where you have
a "SINGLE-VIEW" and not multiple "window" views...

Like anything new, it takes time to get used to it. But, once you do,
most will refused to go back to SEU. Especially for code analysis. The
Outline view is AWESOME!!! Not to mention code-assist, show nesting,
re-indent free-format code, multiple split screens, Debug with multiple
monitors. And much much more...

Keep it simple, and slowly spoon-feed them. The young ones, and those not
stuck in the 20th century pick it up very fast!



-Ken Killian-


-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg
Wilburn
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To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] 9.6 install

The install was night/day different. Downloading the images didn't take
that long, but extracting the zip files had an estimate of 1 hour plus for
each of them.

Copying the workspace was great also.

It would just be nice to have a short, concise (i.e. one page of bullet
points) step-by-step on how to do this - I somehow think this would be a
monumental task for IBM (LOL). It's been a while, but I vaguely recall
similar frustrations with a previous install.

Maybe this is a bigger hurdle to SEU users than you think?

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Greg, I do highly recommend the web install approach. We have optimized
it to be the fastest and least complicated for an individual to install.
It will only download the Installation Manager which is launched pointing
back to our repository. You pick what features you want and then it only
downloads those and installs them for you. Since I assume you are not
using the Java Modernization Edition, but rather the base RPG & COBOL
tools, this will be a small fraction of the download.

Point the new installed RDi to a copy of your old workspace and you will
be up and running in a matter of minutes, not hours.
You will love some of the new features. People really like the new
hovers that give you rich information about where definitions come from.
I.e.
which database library/file/record/fields and I Specs and data
structures etc. all contributed to the definition.
Lot's of other folks on the list can attest to other features that you
will like (Ken just mentioned Tab/Enter)

Edmund




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From: Greg Wilburn <gwilburn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 2018-02-20 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] 9.6 install
Sent by: "WDSCI-L" <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Ken,

Thanks... I'll try the web install. I don't have the time nor the
patience to upgrade using the other route.

IBM can blame "old programmers" for not wanting to move to RDi... but I
guarantee you the millennials will not be patient enough to tolerate the
standard install. It's beyond ridiculous that something takes this long to
install in 2018.

Sorry if I'm being "harsh" - but who has the time to spend an entire day
just to update a piece of software?

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken
Killian
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:18 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] 9.6 install

Greg,

Yes, the extract process takes a while, but it seems to be about
20-minutes for me...

You could also try the web-install instead.
https://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21667734

https://delivery04.dhe.ibm.com/sar/CMA/RAA/079o7/0/RationalD
eveloperForiV9.6TrialWebInstall-Windows.zip


I just recently discovered that I can hit the "TAB" key to indent my
**free Code!!! Awesome!

**FREE has now been out for 4-years! <Joy Joy>

-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
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Wilburn
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:05 AM
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Subject: [WDSCI-L] 9.6 install

I apologize ahead of time... I know this has probably been covered. But
is there a SIMPLE document outlining the install/upgrade process from v9.5
to v9.6?

I'm not sure what I downloaded, but ONE of the zip files is going to take
an HOUR to extract. Something doesn't seem right. I just need the
RPG/Cobol version.

Thx,
Greg
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