Re: RDi Lite -- WDSCI-L

What exactly is the error you get?

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-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Schoen
Sent: Donnerstag, 8. Februar 2018 06:37
To: wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi Lite

So you're saying if you have 20 developers you only need to purchase a single RDI license because IBMi can single thread compiles. What ?

Show me that in the license agreement 😊

When you say FREE VS limits you to a single compiler, what are you referring to ?

Visual Studio Community is full-fledged and includes almost all features of Visual Studio Pro including built-in Node.Js development and all the language compilers.

Perhaps you should do a little more research.

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Richard Schoen
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message: 3
date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 20:15:54 -0500
from: Mark Murphy <jmarkmurphy@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi Lite

Yes, RDi doesn't include compilers, but you don't need as many seats as you have developers. Most places I have worked put compiles into a single thread queue, so you only need one seat for that. Free VS limits you to a single compiler last I checked. Though you can download it once for each compiler. And who says you can't build a working IBM i application with RDi?

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Tim Fathers <X700-IX2J@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You're not comparing apples with apples. It's been a while since I
used VS but even then it was a way more capable IDE than RDi and it
includes all the compilers, build tools, change management integration etc. etc.
required to build complete applications. The compiler licences for IBM
i are chargeable on top of the RDi licence, which isn't much more than
a basic editor built on top of an open source platform, it doesn't
even have intellisense yet! You get no build tools whatsoever with RDi
or with the compiler licences on the server. Also there is a free
route into VS, so anyone can pick up a copy and start to write working Windows applications.

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From: WDSCI-L <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Mark Murphy
< jmarkmurphy@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 04 February 2018 23:16
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi Lite

Let's look at cost for a bit. Visual studio pro subscription costs >
$1000 per seat with a $800 renewal. Companies have no trouble paying
for that. Visual studio pro without subscription is $500 with no
published renewal price. So VS may, or may not be cheaper to start
with, but it is always more expensive long term.