Buck... ALL of your points are valid. But I think you can agree that the points I've made are valid as well. (I'm not sure you can use tn5250 as an HMC).

I was very upset when we purchased a new box and software licenses, and then discovered I had to buy more software because RDi "wasn't included". Heck, my IBM business partner didn't even know (and they use RDi/WDSC in house).

I'm guessing... but the thought process at IBM was something like "It's a PC software, therefore it must be licensed like PC software"

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On 3/8/2017 3:04 PM, Greg Wilburn wrote:
But what it doesn't address those of us who purchase ONE machine with the OS, compilers, etc.

It used to. Someone at IBM thought it would be a better idea to reveal the cost of RDi separate from the rest of the development software.

Why would someone logically purchase the compilers without an editor?

If the NYS DMV deploy their application as source members with a script to customise, configure and build the thing on a site by site basis, each of those hundred machines would need a compiler, but not an editor.

Before you throw the tomatoes, you did ask - and this is a real scenario. Strange, but real.

As far as client access goes - you need at least one license to manage the machine.

I use tn5250 - an alternative, free, open source program. And have for years, maybe decades - it's been a long long time. I bring this up not to be argumentative, but to relate something an IBMer told me many years ago, when I was at a technical conference. Complaining, as is my wont.
About SEU and how rudimentary it is. Was. Is. You know. He told me that IBM deliberately left SEU in a barely useful state in order to encourage third party vendors to make something better, and thus grow the IBM software market.

There /are/ alternatives to RDi and IBM i Access. Throw a couple of Euros to Mihael Schmidt for his RDi-like editor. Small, lightweight, and he does good work.


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