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I learned a long time ago that you can't "make" people do anything... they have to buy into it on their own and "want" to improve. This applies to virtually everything in business - not just software.

Every new process we have designed in our facility has been driven by the associate doing the work - they buy in, take ownership, and do everything possible to make it successful. The same is true for RDi. At first there were things that i absolutely hated. But I knew I had to learn it. After 2 years, I really dislike doing anything in SEU short of a quick search or peek into a pgm.

There are some good videos out there on introducing RDi - if a programmer watches those and still doesn't want to give it a try, then they'll never use it.
Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Bailey
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 4:40 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Resistance to using RDi

I have two colleagues that started computer programming with punch cards, passing through s/36, s/38, as/400 and so on. They have had a (professional) lifetime of changes and now they just want to do what they feel comfortable with. I respect the knowledge and skills of both, and they are just as capable and efficient as I am, so there is no way I can do any more than encourage them to use RDi (and maybe show off the nicer features every now and then.)

If IBM ever remove SEU/PDM from use then things will have to change, but until then we'll work as an SEU/PDM compatible team.


-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jon Everton
Sent: 18 February 2016 03:32
To: wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Resistance to using RDi

Buck, I see your frustration, but we work in a technology industry. If you have associates that are not willing to embrace technology they should be put out to pasture. When IBM discontinues support for DDS and SEU they need to see the writing on the wall and get on board.

My 2 cents,
jon

date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 18:57:09 -0500
from: Buck Calabro <kc2hiz@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Resistance to using RDi

I don't know how I'd feel about management dictating my choice of editor. A previous boss wanted to force the team into RDi, and I actively argued against that. Should I re-evaluate my thinking?

Is there a real-life example of rolling out RDi to a team who must be forced to use it? My notion of success is that they become almost immediately enamoured of RDi and constantly walk past my desk to shower me with adulation for finally bringing them to the promised land.

Here's what I think would happen. My colleagues don't have RDi installed, or if they do, it's WDSC 5.0. Which they tried for ten minutes. Once.
1) Schedule the time for the PC to be available for an hour
2) I install RDi + fixpack
3) I configure RDi; connexion, filter, not much
4) Claudia comes back from lunch and tries SEU (should I break PDM too?)
5) Bad words because SEU is broken. Switches to RDi window (which I've cleverly left open)
6) My phone rings. How do I edit a member, I just want to edit a member I don't want all this drill down crap, I just want to... Oh, Ctrl-Alt-Q, OK
7) My phone rings. I want to copy a line, all I want to do is copy a line.
Why do I have to backtab a hundred times to get to the sequence number? No, I don't want to use a mouse, I never used a mouse before why should I use a mouse now? Alt-L? How many special key combinations do I need to remember?
OK I wrote that down, now what? Ctrl-C? Oh brother, like Word? Why can't I just use Word it'll be easier than all this. OK.
8) My phone rings. I have all these sqiggly lines all over everything, how do I get rid of that crap? Well of course I'm in the middle of editing, I am changing the lines and every time I type one character and down arrow all these pink lines and red squiggles come up. Why can't it wait until I hit enter like it always did? Do you know how slow it's going to be to change one entire line and the go to the next, and the next? If I survive the epilepsy this thing is giving me.
9) My phone rings. All I want to do is compile this. There are a pile of useless icons, I click Compile and I get a dropdown which gives me a dropdown and I have to choose one of what 10 options? This is nuts why can't I just compile? Ctrl-Shift-C? OK
10) My phone rings. How do I test my program now that it's compiled.
At least I think it's compiled. How do I see the spooled file? Green screen? All this crap so I can go use a green screen? Host connection emulator? Who called it that? Right click on what now? Forget this, I'll start Client Access.

My descent into Dante's First Circle of Hell has begun, and so passes the first hour. Of the rest of my life.

This hopefully entertaining tale is not entirely a figment of my slightly eccentric imagination. To this day, years later, I am still the subject of scorn as That Weirdo who claimed WDSC is better than SEU, haha what a freak.

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--buck


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