Re: Fw: New RFE for your perusal

[Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yeah, I agree generally. I got to use it at RJS when working there - it 
is pretty easy to create requirements in RTC, although there is another 
product for that, of course!

Community edition, as you say, has no IBM i support that I know of - 
unless that has changed in the last 3 years.

Once you set up something in RTC, you get direct connection to RDi for 
editing IBM i stuff, so that's very nice. And it does have better build 
stuff - dependencies, for example - that IBM i needs.

The other big deal is the visibility of what is going on to all 
principals. I found it isn't just large projects that benefit from using 
it - it can be a kind of help desk repository or other kinds of request. 
It has Agile support strongly built in, but you don't have to go that route.

But it isn't cheap - nor are any of the other CMS products. Arcad is the 
only one who is riding the Jazz bandwagon, though, the framework upon 
which RTC and related products are built.

Regards
Vern

On 2/8/2016 7:11 AM, Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc. wrote:
> I have tried to work with RTC community edition, and maybe I am a bit dense, but it seems overengineered unless you are working with huge teams with equally huge requirements. And community edition does not support IBM i. For that you have to spend $6K per seat. I don't see that happening here. To be fair, it has been several years since I looked at RTC. It could be easier to use by now, but I may be dreaming there.
>
> Mark Murphy
> STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
> mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: -----
> To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> From: Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 02/05/2016 01:51PM
> Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Fw: New RFE for your perusal
>
>
> Yeah, that's what I thought - I think Rational Team Concert uses
> iProjects, it can bring multiple such into a working set, for lack of
> their real term. Of course, IBM want you to get RTC, which would give
> you this functionality, maybe!
>
> On 2/5/2016 12:28 PM, Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc. wrote:
> > RDi comes with CVS and SVN support, but not in the RSE perspective. It does have the Team line in the iProjects menu though, but as I said, that just is way limited, and hard to use. I suspect that If I installed eGit into eclipse, I could use Git with iProjects too. I want either iProjects to support the IFS, or General Projects to support IBM i compilation.
> >
> > Mark Murphy
> > STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
> > mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > -----Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: -----
> > To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > From: Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: 02/05/2016 01:11PM
> > Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Fw: New RFE for your perusal
> >
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > Had you looked at the CVS team support in RDi? I haven't, not sure if it
> > uses iProjects for IBM i stuff, though, or some other thing.
> >
> > Just curious
> > Vern
> >
> > On 2/5/2016 11:58 AM, Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc. wrote:
> > > I started this on Midrange-l, but the discussion became about RDi rather than the RFE, so I am posting here. The latest incarnation of free format starting in column 1 makes me believe that tools like Git are now even more accessible, if only RDi would support IFS development better. iProjects don't work for me because they are tied explicitly to a single library, and all source goes into source files which Git doesn't really know about. A generic project is closer, allowing me to load source into text files and use source control like Git as a repository. It even opens the files with the LPEX editor. But it doesn't allow me to compile because I can't find the compile menu or commands in the customization dialog. On the other hand creating an rpgle file in the IFS under RSE allows me to edit and compile, but I can't put it under version control because the context menu doesn't contain the Team submenu.
> > >
> > > Mark Murphy
> > > STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
> > > mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Forwarded by Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc. on 02/05/2016 12:48PM -----
> > > To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > From: "Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc." <mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date: 02/05/2016 09:21AM
> > > Subject: New RFE for your perusal
> > >
> > >
> > > I have entered a new RFE:
> > > http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=83582
> > >
> > > This RFE is about moving forward in development with a goal of being able to do RPG development in conjunction with GIT. I know some people already do this, but it seems a bit hard to do. I am looking for a more hierarchical approach. An enhancement to the iProject perspective.
> > >
> > >
> > > Mark Murphy
> > > STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
> > > mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx