Ken,
It is good news to me that you can reliably reproduce that StackOverFlow
issue. It means I should be able to fix it. But I need a copy of that
before it changes and doesn't cause that problem any more. Were you able
to open a PMR with it?
Edmund
From: Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 10/02/2015 04:32 PM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Memory Leaks?
Sent by: "WDSCI-L" <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Vern,
I work with many talented individuals...
A co-worker got the dreaded "Milky-White-Screen", and asked me how to
debug, and how to send an error-report to IBM. It was the very first time
he ever got it. And he has been using it a long time.... I told him that is
the no solution, just kill it and restart it. Not much that can be done...
Believe it or not, I promote RDI a lot! So much, that people get tire of
hearing me ranting about it.
I must admit I might sound negative at times. But, bringing up source
SHOULD NOT EVER stop your editor. And I have 3 other developers bring up
the same source, and it crashed all their RDI 9.5. So, it happens on 3
different PC, and by 3 developers. I DO NOT consider that ISOLATED. <frown>
That is NOT Stable software, at least this current release...
Another senior developer Laughed, and said, "I don't use any software until
at least the first service-pack"... <frown>
I told him someone has to take the arrows to get the Beta-testing
accomplished. Note, he uses RDI 9.1.1.1, and has also complained about the
bugs. But, he doesn't report them to IBM... <disappointment>
Until today, RDI 9.5 had been working WONDERFUL for me...
Just a little while ago, my co-worker dragged me over to his cubicle, to
show that he got the "Milky-White-Screen" of Death. And he asked out loud.
"Tell me again how this SAVES ME TIME..." <frown>
Apparently, my co-worker, Bob, has lost about 1-hours' worth of work. I had
him check the source on his PC. And the time stamp is over 1-hour old.
I had him check his "Auto-Save-setting", which is supposed to save every
5-minutes. We confirmed in >Windows>Preferences>Remotes Systems>Remotes
System LPEX Editor.
I LOVE RDI, when it works. But, if not 100% stable, as confirmed by NOT
just me, but others. I wonder why I bother with it at times.
<disappointment>
Believe me! I much rather it just work!
So, I apologize for being negative, but when it fails, it can be EXTREMELY
frustrating... <sad face>
Maybe our IBM i Developers should have Intel i7 w/16-GIG! <LOL> I have an
Intel i5 with 8-gig, approx. 4-year Laptop, Dell E6510. I think my
Co-worker Bob has the EXACT same model. <grin>
PS. Turning off OUTLINE View, seems to have solved my problems for the
moment. I *ASSUME* it did, anyway...
-Ken Killian-
-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vernon
Hamberg
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 2:18 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for
System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Memory Leaks?
Ken
The way you respond so forcefully that this product is not stable - I can
see where your CIO would not want to go with it.
But it seems you are pretty isolated in this - really, I live in this thing
all day every day and do not have anywhere near the problems you describe.
When you make a statement like "what good is it?" - please, what do you
think people will think? I don't see how you can say that AND say that you
love it at the same time.
Your desire for improvement in the product is fantastic - and you bring up
things to IBM that need to be addressed.
Yet, how you say things is not as helpful as it could be, in my opinion.
We're in a service business - I understand how all you hear about are when
things go wrong. We wish that we'd hear more about our successes - but that
just isn't how the world seems to work.
I will continue to champion RDi and all - and recognize that it's not
perfect. Just how imperfect is it? Can we get a metric? Are we talking
about 1% of the functionality is askew? Even 5% is not intolerable, seems
to me.
Anyhow, please continue to present issues, especially in PMRs, as we need
this product to be the best it can be. And I hope you find a way to be a
true champion of its benefits to your shop - I know it's tremendously good
for us!
Cheers
Vern
On 10/2/2015 12:53 PM, Ken Killian wrote:
My C.I.O. asked me if RDI has finally become Stable. I had to be honest
and say "NO"...
That was an Omen... <Sad Face>
I tried to open a member with only 741 lines of code, and I get this
error:
An internal error occurred during: "Live parsing MCDTHBRL.SQLRPGLE".
java.lang.StackOverflowError
I have restarted 6-times, and same error every time.
I hate OUTLINE View, when I used the OLD WDSC without outline view, WDSC
was awesome! I had a lot fewer errors....
I should be able to VIEW CODE. That should be 100% STABLE/PERFECT.
Do NOT get me wrong, I love outline view & code-Assist, but if it makes
the product UNSTABLE, what good is it?
My memory is 99M of 175M....
I guess I need to turn off OUTLINE View, and quit using that Unstable
feature, it is NOT worth it....
windows>preferences>Remote System>Remote System LPEX Editor>ILE RPG
O uncheck "Automatic syntax checking of SQL Statements (performed on
the Server) O Uncheck "Update the Outline view when text is changed in
the editor"
THAT WORKED! <Joy Joy> Back to No Frills Code Editor...
But, there Verify shows errors on SQL statements in the Methods (a.k.a.
Procedures)....
Death by 1,000 papercuts continues...
-Ken Killian-
PS. Going to the vending machine to get a snickers bar. I am not
myself, when RDI doesn't work... :(
-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tarr,
Kenneth
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 12:38 PM
To: 'Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries'
Subject: [WDSCI-L] Memory Leaks?
It seems that with every upgrade of RDi we run into Memory Leaks. It
seems to be back again. Working in the product for about an hour now, the
heap got back up to over 700M of the 1024M limit as established in the
control file. RDi V9.1 through V9.1.1.1 didn't have this much of a
problem; it occasionally got above 400M but that was about it.
I have the Show Heap enabled, which has a trash can icon. I can click on
this to collect the heap garbage and it does reduce the total amount, but
what was noted is that I could click on it repeatedly and it kept reducing
the heap size to where it's back down to about 400M. I did about ten
clicks and each time it reduced in size; afterwards it stabilized.
So it appears we've sprung some leaks again, but at least RDi is doing
better at reclaiming this memory so it doesn't suddenly get up to where the
Show Heap turns red and you either have to do a Restart, or are greeted
with a slow running app or one that suddenly crashes on you. The last two
haven't happened yet.
(Maybe we should use that Flex Seal product advertised on TV, eh?) :)
-- Ken
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