I really don`t think, that the perceived lack of support is due to Doug Davie. As I know he is employed at Softlanding Systems and therefore he is bound by instructions. The problems are behind the scenes. As I wrote in my last mail I am not a friend of forking other open source projects but in some cases there are good reasons to do so. For example no new features, no bug fixes. I can`t remember Softlanding Systems has released a new version of the RSE Extensions Plugin in the last years. The idea of open source is to share the knowledge with the community and if the original contributor don`t want to continue working on the project for what reasons ever others can do the job. When I initiate a open source project then I have to be aware that others can continue with my project when I stop further development. If I don`t want this then I have to publish the software as freeware and not as open source. In my case I can say that when I am no longer able or willing to work on the iSphere project then I would be glad if others would continue to work on iSphere.

Frank




-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Vernon Hamberg
Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. September 2014 21:18
An: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Betreff: Re: [WDSCI-L] iSphere and RSE Extensions

I'm wondering if the perceived lack of support is because the RSE
Extensions are pretty mature - they've worked well for many years now,
as Frank says.

I know that Doug Davie, who works at SoftLanding, has responded in these
lists whenever there is a new release of RD-whatever - I got the plugins
installed from his instructions posted here.

BTW, we are a customer of their's, just so you know. I got curious and
looked at their site - there's a request form for a web demo or
questions or whatever that includes the Extensions in the product list.
And phone numbers - so anyone who has an idea for an enhancement to the
extensions can certainly contact them.

Of course, these plugins are free - but I know that I expect a level of
support, so long as they don't say otherwise on the site. And that I can
direct my thoughts their way.

Regards
Vern

On 9/30/2014 10:13 AM, Frank Hildebrandt wrote:
@ All together,

in the past Softlanding Systems has done a good job with the RSE Extensions Plugin but now it seems that there is no further support neither for bugs nor for enhancements for what reasons ever. In general I don`t like to fork other open source projects but in case of the Messages Subsystem of the RSE Extensions Plugin we have a well working feature that deserves it to be maintained and it makes no sense to develop this from scratch again. Therefore I will adopt the Messages Subsystem of the RSE Extensions Plugin to make it a part of iSphere. First step will be to adopt the Messages Subsystem as it is. Later we can implement new features if the RDi community requests this. I think this is in the interest of the RDi community. Problems with the license I can`t see because RSE Extensions and iSphere are open source projects.

Greetings

Frank






-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Austin, Mark
Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. September 2014 08:55
An: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Betreff: Re: [WDSCI-L] iSphere and RSE Extensions

Hi Frank,

I too use the messages subsystem and again it is the only part of the softlanding extensions that I still use. Everything else that isn't core product I do with your plugin so would certainly appreciate this being included.

Best regards,
Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Hildebrandt
Sent: 29 September 2014 18:22
To: 'Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] iSphere and RSE Extensions

If there are enough people out there who are using the Messages Subsystem of the RSE Extension Plugin and we decide to adopt this to iSphere then of course we can enrich the Messages Subsystem with new features like clearing a message queue.

Frank Hildebrandt




-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Charles Wilt
Gesendet: Montag, 29. September 2014 18:48
An: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Betreff: Re: [WDSCI-L] iSphere and RSE Extensions

I use it...in fact, that's pretty much the only thing I use the softlanding plugin for.

Specifically, I use the message queue monitoring so I get pop-up messages when batch jobs complete.

If you add it, I hope you can figure out how to have your message subsystem be able to clear a message queue with the monitoring turned on. RSE can't.

Charles

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Frank Hildebrandt < frank.hildebrandt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

This sounds interesting. Are there any others out there, who are using
the Messages Subsystem of the RSE Extensions Plugin and seconds this.

Frank Hildebrandt



-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von
Colpaert, Peter
Gesendet: Montag, 29. September 2014 06:13
An: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries
Betreff: Re: [WDSCI-L] iSphere and RSE Extensions

I second Brian's proposal. I use the messaging subsystem AND iSphere
every day, so it would indeed be a great step forward if it could be
incorporated into one single plugin.

Met vriendelijke groeten / Best regards,

Peter Colpaert
Software Engineer - PLM Development Team IT Operations Cluster
Benelux, Philips IT

Philips Consumer Luminaires
Industrieterrein Satenrozen 11, 2550 Kontich, Belgium
Tel: (+32) 3/459 13 17
Email: Peter.Colpaert@xxxxxxxxxxx

Working from home on Wednesdays

-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian
Parkins
Sent: vrijdag 26 september 2014 21:51
To: Midrange.Com (WDsc/RDP)
Subject: [WDSCI-L] iSphere and RSE Extensions

In an earlier post, Matt said:

“FYI, ever since I went to 9.0 and 9.1 I had been having issues
getting the Softlanding Spooled File plugin to work (open the item in
the text
editor) but your tool has always worked for me in that regard, so now
I am exclusively an iSphere user and fan. It looks like Softlanding is
not maintaining their product but your are. Plus I prefer the install
and update interface for iSphere than Softlanding's.”

I have to concur with Matt, Frank and the rest of the team at Task
Force IT are doing a fantastic job with the, (free!!) iSphere tools.
Looking down the list of Ideas for Improvement:

http://sourceforge.net/p/isphere/wiki/IdeasForImprovments/

suggests there are more goodies on the way. With iSphere likely to
incorporate a Data Area editor, the ONLY thing that Softlanding’s RSE
Exrtensions has which still makes it useful is the Messages Subsystem.

I may be speaking out of turn here, but if the RSE Extensions are not
being maintained and enhanced, would it be possible for iSphere to
adopt the Messages Subsystem of RSE Extensions? Would there be a
demand for this within the RDi community?

(I would certainly appreciate a simpler and more consistent install
process that a single plug-in would provide. It does become slightly
irritating having to complete multiple software installs, following
different procedures for different tools.)

Brian.

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