IBM already ships this capability in RTC Enterprise Edition
Once you have setup your build it does it for you. We have a tool that
will go through a library scanning your programs and service programs and
creating files to tell us how to build them again in the future so you
don't have to list all the modules and such for us. You only
have to do that for any brand new programs and service programs you want to
build or if you are adding new modules, bind dirs, etc. You still have to
do some setup to tell us what commands you want to run and such though.
Once it is setup. You can make changes, deliver them and the builds will
figure out exactly what to build based on your changes. You can run
personal builds to just build your changes and all the dependencies from
them. No need to remember. If you are curious though we have tools to
help you see the relationships. You can do an Impact Analysis search to
find all files that depend on the member you are searching on or find
everything it depends on. This type of search only does source
dependencies so if you depend on a built PF it won' find it. We then have
Source Code Data Queries that you can create to query any kind of
relationship that our scanners have mined from the code.
Regards,
Edmund (E.H.) Reinhardt
Technical Architect for Rational Developer for i
Phone: 1-905-413-3125 | Home: 1-905-854-6195 IBM
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From: Buck Calabro <kc2hiz@xxxxxxxxx>
To: wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx,
Date: 31/03/2014 05:53 PM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] From My Wish List
Sent by: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
On 3/31/2014 4:57 PM, Edmund Reinhardt wrote:
I was just getting frustrated with the ILE support in RDi myself :-)
If you want a true dependency build, you have that in RTC or ARCAD
Or in i Projects you can make the equivalent of a makefile that manages
these.
But I agree that there should be better tooling support to set up the
initial build.
I was thinking of a split editor on the CL to build the CRTPGM command,
where you could drag in the modules and service programs you want to have
as input.
Of course you could build a binder source this way as well.
I would like some ideas just on how people would like to see the user
interface work for all of these things.
Of course I can't commit to doing this at any specific time schedule, but
I
would to hear some brainstorming of how this should work.
I vote for Maven. Specifically, a Maven that's IBM i-aware, and can
tell that these 3 modules make up that service program and that this
module was compiled from that source member. It seems to me that the
strength of basing RDi on Eclipse is the ability to leverage the Eclipse
ecosystem. I'm not a Java developer, but it seems easier to me to write
a Maven plugin that's IBM i-aware than it is to write a whole new,
unique thing. Plus, any time we midrange programmers get to have a
shared development experience with the Java and C++ programmers, it's a
good thing. In my dreams, I use Maven and Mylyn alongside RPGUnit to
build and test functions, modules, programs and service programs
incrementally. One needs dreams...
I would be remiss if I failed to mention Ant. Which is also not IBM
i-aware. It is also very, very flexible, which means it is not easy for
beginners to grok.
--buck
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