Re: From My Wish List

[Pete Helgren <pete@xxxxxxxxxx>]

What immediately came to mind for me as I read this was the "Build Path" 
options I see in the IDE I use for Java (MyEclipse).  I think it is a 
base Eclipse feature for Java projects.  Basically you can create the 
build path by navigating to, and then adding those references to your 
project.

I spend most of my time in Java but I do remember issues with 
dependencies in ILE in RDi (which I will be re-entering shortly in any 
case).  If more ideas arise as I go back through the learning curve, 
I'll let you know.

Pete Helgren
www.petesworkshop.com
GIAC Secure Software Programmer-Java

On 3/31/2014 3:57 PM, Edmund Reinhardt wrote:
> I was just getting frustrated with the ILE support in RDi myself :-)
> If you want a true dependency build, you have that in RTC or ARCAD
> Or in i Projects you can make the equivalent of a makefile that manages
> these.
> But I agree that there should be better tooling support to set up the
> initial build.
>
> I was thinking of a split editor on the CL to build the CRTPGM command,
> where you could drag in the modules and service programs you want to have
> as input.
> Of course you could build a binder source this way as well.
>
> I would like some ideas just on how people would like to see the user
> interface work for all of these things.
>
> Of course I can't commit to doing this at any specific time schedule, but I
> would to hear some brainstorming of how this should work.
>
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>
> Regards,
>
> Edmund (E.H.) Reinhardt
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> From:	"Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc."
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> To:	"Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
>              Client for	System i & iSeries" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> Date:	31/03/2014 03:33 PM
> Subject:	[WDSCI-L] From My Wish List
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> I really like the idea of an IDE. It should do all the keeping track of
> things for me.  It should help me with my builds, it should make debugging
> easier for me, and RDI does a lot of that very nicely. But one place where
> it falls short is in helping with ILE builds. I shouldn't have to remember
> what modules are used to build which service programs. I shouldn't even
> have to manage binder source, the IDE should be able to do that for me.
> Maybe I am missing something, but this sort of build support should be a
> minimum level of support. I was talking to a colleague about ILE, and he
> told me that he hasn't done ILE because it is too hard. To hard in that
> there are too many moving parts, and no tools that know how to manage them.
> If I am missing something, please let me know, but I just don't see it in
> RDi. I was hoping that an I Project would be the ticket, but not really. It
> lets you write a biding program, but that is not the tool doing the work.
>
> What would be nice is to be able to define a service program in some sort
> of meta data. A dialog would let me attach modules to the service program,
> and then tell which procedures were exported. It would also allow me to
> attach binding directories, and work with the binding directory entries. It
> would be smart enough to know whether to create or update the service
> program based on source dates, and whether or not I have added a new
> module. And I would simply have to tell RDI to build the service program,
> and it would do it all correctly. That includes recompiling the sources
> that have changed, and updating or replacing the service program.
> Generating the appropriate binder source with a static signature.
> Disallowing moving or removal of exports if at all possible, or making it
> painful to do so because that would require a rebind of all dependent
> programs and service programs. It would be nice though if RDi could handle
> that though as well, automatically.
>
> Now I realize that some of you are pretty sophisticated with ILE objects,
> and have processes and procedures in place to handle them for you, but
> don't you think that this is really the job of the IDE? This isn't Notepad,
> or even SEU.
>
> Mark Murphy
> STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
> mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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