Hi Edmund,
Thanks for the reply and all the hard work you guys do on this great product.
I know you wouldn't forget about us and am hanging in there by my finger nails, with gritted teeth! I would say I'm holding my breath but I can hold on by my finger nails far longer than I can hold my breath!
Looking forward to some great Cobol enhancements in future releases with bated breath.
Best regards,
Mark Austin
IT Consultant
Universal Music Publishing Group
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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Edmund Reinhardt
Sent: 07 January 2014 14:55
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Cc: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Outline sort feature removed
Hi Mark,
We haven't forgotten you. We did some improvement to the COBOL outline a release ago, but it is not as nice as RPG. We are aware of the requirement and motivated, but we have to prioritize our limited resources according to the market demand, and as the number of RPG developers is much higher than COBOL, they are getting the investment first.
Sorry to disappoint. Hang in there.
Regards,
Edmund (E.H.) Reinhardt
COBOL IDE on AIX, DDS, WebFacing, System i Application Development, Rational Developer for Power
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From: "Austin, Mark" <Mark.Austin@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Cc: "wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 07/01/2014 09:08 AM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Outline sort feature removed
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Hi Edmund,
It's great to hear about all the nice features of the live outline view for RPG but when, if ever, are you guys going to remember us dinosaur Cobol developers and give us an comparable outline?
Best regards,
Mark Austin
IT Consultant
Universal Music Publishing Group
Email: mark.austin@xxxxxxxxxx
Tel: +44 (0) 20 8742 5520
Fax: +44 (0) 20 8742 5699
Post: 347-353 Chiswick High Road, London W4 4HS Universal Music Publishing International Limited Registered in England. Number 02050403 Registered Office: 20 Fulham Broadway, London, SW6 1AH
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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Edmund Reinhardt
Sent: 06 January 2014 22:15
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Cc: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Outline sort feature removed
At one point both the static outline and the content assist relied on the output of the program verifier to get information about the current RPG source. And yes, you needed to hit Refresh on the outline view to get up to date info for content assist.
Now that we have live outline, both content assist and the outline view work off of an in-memory model of the current RPG source that is maintained on every key stroke.
So content assist is no longer dependent on the outline view if you are using the live outline option. So you could have the outline view close and content assist would still have up-to-date information.
Eventually we plan to deprecate the static outline view once the live outline has all of capabilities of the static outline, we are still short a couple of features, like O-specs and DEFINE op codes and line conditioning.
Regards,
Edmund (E.H.) Reinhardt
COBOL IDE on AIX, DDS, WebFacing, System i Application Development, Rational Developer for Power
2D barcode Phone: 1-905-413-3125 | Phone: 1-905-854-6195 IBM
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with AIX COBOL:
8200 Warden Ave
contact www.youtube.com/user/IBMRational#g/c/62DF24D5BCD43501
Markham, ON L6G 1C7
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God in Christ Jesus concerning you." - 1
Thessalonians 5:18
From: "Anderson, Kurt" <KAnderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 06/01/2014 04:46 PM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Outline sort feature removed
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I'm sure there's been a lot of discussion on list about the value the Outline provides. Whether it applies to you would be another story.
I use it for a lot of things, but primarily I use it to navigate. Either to a procedure, or to where that procedure is called from. You can do the same through Find, but I find click navigation to be faster for me.
The even greater benefit to me is that content-assist uses the information built by the outline. So w/o the outline, content assist would be crippled. At least that's my understanding.
-Kurt
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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Buck Calabro
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 4:14 PM
To: wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Outline sort feature removed
On 1/6/2014 4:04 PM, Ken Killian wrote:
Question is alright to use the "LIVE OUTLINE" again?
Anybody having problem with Live-Parsing?
To this day I can't figure out what the value-add is for the outline view.
So I pretty much only look at it when someone posts a question here.
Having said that, I discovered that my live outline has been turned on ever since I installed 9.0.1 and RDi has been smooth as silk for me - I didn't even know I had live outline turned on.
My workspace is on my local PC, not on a network drive.
--buck
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