Re: WDSCI-L Digest, Vol 11, Issue 131

Thanks Rick. I consider that my APAR. It was opened as a result of my
Service Request (formerly known as a PMR). The problem is somewhat
irritating, but nothing I can't live with to get the rest of the benefits.
I'm grateful for the work the IBM team is doing.

Michael Quigley
Computer Services
The Way International
www.TheWay.org
419 753-1222

wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 03/25/2013 11:33:32 AM:

----- Message from Rick Sawyer <rlsawyer@xxxxxxxxxx> on Mon, 25 Mar
2013 11:32:57 -0400 -----

To:

Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Subject:

Re: [WDSCI-L] RDp 8.5

Hi Michael,

The issue you identify as your biggest challenge (COBOL Outline view
behaviour with a split editor view), has an APAR opened
([1]https://www-304.ibm.com/support/entdocview.wss?uid=swg1SE53893)

which

is planned to be fixed in the next update or a future update to the
product.

Thanks,

Rick Sawyer
Rational Developer for Power
IBM Software Group, Rational

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From: MichaelQuigley@xxxxxxxxxx
To: wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx,
Date: 03/20/2013 08:32 AM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDp 8.5
Sent by: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx

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I understand that some folks have had troubles with the debugger in

RDP

8.5 (and 8.5.1). I personally have had very little trouble--even

using

Debug Job jobs. I think people should give it a try and report any

issues

(through official channels)--then if need be, roll back to 8.0 or use

the

debugger that Vern references below. (I believe it was developed by

the

folks in Rochester--I'm not positive about that.)

The biggest challenge I have is editing COBOL programs and clicking

on in

the outline while in a split view. The first view is always

repositioned,

not the last view in use. It's kind of an irritation, but not a show
stopper. I find the advantages of the new outlines (RPG and COBOL)

to be

worth the latest release. I've not even had much trouble with memory
leaks. And I have at least one 18,000-line RPGLE program from a

vendor.

If no one tries 8.5.1 and reports whatever issues are found, it'll be

a

long wait to get things fixed. That said, go ahead and roll back or
whatever once you've given it a shot. Balance your time spent

against any

possible frustrations you find.

wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 03/19/2013 09:57:37 AM:

> wdsci-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Message from Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on

Tue,

> 19 Mar 2013 06:42:12 -0500 -----
>
> To:
>
> Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
> for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Subject:
>
> Re: [WDSCI-L] RDp 8.5
>
> Y'all - there is another graphical debugger that works just like

the one

> in RDP. It's part of the Java Toolkit, where we get jt400. Here is

a

> link to the 7.2 PDF -
>
>
[6]

http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v7r1m0/topic/rzamq/rzamq.pdf

>
> This is developed by a different group from the Rational team, so

far as

> I know. It's just not integrated with RDP. Still, it might be a

good

> interim tool when there are issues with RDP's debugger. I used it a
> while ago, when I just couldn't seem to get WDSC's debugger to

work.

> Probably mea culpa, but I didn't have time to fight with the thing

then.

>
> HTH
> Vern
>
> On 3/19/2013 6:10 AM, Ken Killian wrote:
> > Mark,
> >
> > I installed the missing PTF for RDP 8.5, and still had issues
withDebug....
> >
> > Ever since I rolled back to RDP 8.0, no more debug issues for

me....

> > Except for the refresh of Monitor view. I just click on a
> different view, and then back on the Monitor view. This forces a
> refresh/Repaint. Not a biggie, and only happens occasionally on RDP
> 8.0. But, at least it works!
> >
> > Maybe after service pack III, then they might resolve the debug
> issues on RDP 8.5.1.
> > Or you could believe my old mentor, who told me "Real Programmer
> don't Debug"...
> > <LOL> He was trying to get me understand code better, about 23
> years ago... <smirk>
> >
> > I have wasted too much time trying to work with RDP 8.5 debug
> issues. Not worth my time.
> >
> > Unless you have time to burn, I suggest you save your sanity, and
> roll back to RDP 8.0.3.
> >
> > Debug is supposed to SAVE your time, not waste time.
> >
> > -Ken Killian-
> > RPGLE Developer
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [
[7]mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> ] On Behalf Of Austin, Mark
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:51 AM
> > To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
> Client for System i & iSeries
> > Subject: [WDSCI-L] RDp 8.5
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have just tried using the SEP debug for the first time since
> upgrading to 8.5 and I have been having several issues with it. My
> program is a SQLCBLLE with a number of large internal tables (in
> case this has anything to do with it). When trying to find out the
> contents of fields I have received CPF7E10 messages - Internal

error

> occurred in two different ways. Firstly, when trying to use the
> variables view and then when trying to add a table to the monitors

view.

> >
> > It does seem to me that this upgrade, on the debug side of

things,

> is a bit of a backwards step.
> >
> > As what I'm working on is urgent I'm going to have to go back to
> my previous release.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Mark Austin
> > IT Consultant
> > Universal Music Publishing Group
> > Email: mark.austin@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Tel: +44 (0) 20 8742 5520
> > Fax: +44 (0) 20 8742 5699
> > Post: 347-353 Chiswick High Road, London W4 4HS Universal Music
> Publishing International Limited Registered in England. Number
> 02050403 Registered Office: 20 Fulham Broadway, London, SW6 1AH
> >